tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post240701983011507689..comments2024-02-23T03:38:53.049-05:00Comments on The Pervocracy: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.Cliff Pervocracyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-48820817771009401542009-05-29T18:32:06.952-04:002009-05-29T18:32:06.952-04:00In light of this post, it is ironic that Twisty ha...In light of this post, it is ironic that Twisty has <A HREF="http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2009/05/28/cuntalinagate/" REL="nofollow">responded</A> to commenters offended by her use of the c-word with a (rambling) post that boils down to "why so serious?".<br /><br />(I don't see why she didn't just replace the c-word with something else and add a footnote saying "sorry" in a witty way.)GreenEarthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-83434990773447429052009-05-29T00:09:25.756-04:002009-05-29T00:09:25.756-04:00Thanks, Holly -
The "if it doesn't work, it's pa...Thanks, Holly - <br /><br />The "if it doesn't work, it's parody" game is part-and-parcel of that Austin mindset.<br /><br />Think black-helicopter-wackjob Alex Jones. He believes it in his very marrow, but he's self-consciously over-the-top in his presentation. Or for a yankeefied version, Rush Limbaugh. If you're offended, I'm joking, if not...<br /><br />Revival preachers down here have been doing that shit for ages.Oriscusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-18998876478248641882009-05-28T13:31:45.189-04:002009-05-28T13:31:45.189-04:00It's not *funny* to call a gay guy gay. It's like...It's not *funny* to call a gay guy gay. It's like that scene in "No Retreat, No Surrender" when the kid taunts Van Damme by shouting, "I don't think so . . . RUSSIAN!"<br /><br />Van Damme's eyebrows shot up over his hairline and he screamed in rage, but since he was playing a Russian mafioso, you would think it was kind of tautological as trash talk goes.Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15824445546892392815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-26806877654252228582009-05-28T12:17:53.195-04:002009-05-28T12:17:53.195-04:00Woo, I hugged a couple dudes last night! Fight th...Woo, I hugged a couple dudes last night! Fight the patriarchy! Power!<br /><br />One of them wasn't even gay. The majority of them were, though.<br /><br />Also, "Twisty Faster if Fucking Insane" might be the most on the nose tag I've seen on any blog ever, Holly.Drewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-9718942092466669362009-05-28T01:10:45.480-04:002009-05-28T01:10:45.480-04:00Oriscus - I'm aware that Twisty is a little bit pa...Oriscus - I'm aware that Twisty is a little bit parodic (although I think she also sometimes hides behind the "If it doesn't go over well, act like it was a parody" game), but I also believe that her readers are largely genuine, non-Austin, dead-serious lunatics. In many ways they interest me much more than she does.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-77159417831552635332009-05-28T00:55:26.353-04:002009-05-28T00:55:26.353-04:00Twisty lives, I think, in my neighborhood here in ...Twisty lives, I think, in my neighborhood here in Austin. She even touted one of my favorite restaurants in her blog (which disturbed me no end).<br /><br />I think she exhibits a peculiarly Austin mindset, one which permits one to assert a POV to the point of conscious self-parody.<br /><br />IOW: she really is a second-wave ideologue, and she also plays a parody of one on the internet. <br /><br />Whee!Oriscusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-22456225787664954652009-05-28T00:52:50.215-04:002009-05-28T00:52:50.215-04:00Pervtastic - I guess I'm just stubborn. I don't t...Pervtastic - I guess I'm just stubborn. I don't think of Twisty (or Cosmo, or PUA dudes, etc.) as depressing, but as the gift that keeps on giving.<br /><br />I also hope, in my more grandiose moments, that crazy people can serve as extreme illustrations of delusional and destructive beliefs that more reasonable-seeming people might also hold, but eh. Mostly it's just an old habit from growing up near a beach. The weirder and grosser something is, the more I've gotta poke at it.<br /><br />Don Gwinn - Yeah, my male coworkers hug sometimes too, and the Patriarchy's enforcement agents have failed to respond.<br /><br />(They also exhibit an interesting homophobia dichotomy in that homophobic insults aimed at straight guys fly all over the place--"you're such a faggot!"--but no one harasses the actual gay guys who work here. Bob is a queer-ass butt-monkey, but Joe's cool, he's just gay.)<br /><br />lastnightsclothes - Your secret is safe with me.<br /><br />And Twisty doesn't <I>want</I> an incrementally better world, that's insufficiently dramatic and exciting and it would put her out of a job. She wants to see herself as a leader of a brave underground Resistance, and in the absence of any actual Nazis she'll just have to hallucinate some.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-49436262822091308862009-05-28T00:44:02.813-04:002009-05-28T00:44:02.813-04:00You know, if one simply Googles "obama hugging", o...You know, if one simply Googles "obama hugging", one gets all kinds of pictures of Obama hugging men. Shock! Gasp! Actually, I think pictures of him hugging men are a slight majority. Is he oppressing them, too? By being President and all that, he, I dunno, emasculates them, so he's really oppressing women? In that case, Georgia Bush is a discredit to her sex.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-39508808850426642812009-05-28T00:13:19.174-04:002009-05-28T00:13:19.174-04:00Don Gwinn, yeah really. I've seen plenty of d...Don Gwinn, yeah really. I've seen plenty of dudes hug each other without "cringing," in all different sorts of circumstances. To think that "the patriarchy" is so all-powerful that it makes any display of male-on-male affection impossible -- in direct contradiction to the reality one can observe with one's eyes, any day of the week -- well, it's insane! & it leads to the conclusion that progress, or a more feminist world, is impossible. Which is what this woman & her peeps seem to think anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-73459129813528549432009-05-27T23:42:15.317-04:002009-05-27T23:42:15.317-04:00Perv, I don't think Holly can stop even if she wan...Perv, I don't think Holly can stop even if she wants to. <br /><br />Also, where I come from, men hug each other all the time. Friends, teammates, whoever.Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15824445546892392815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-12940357019023869322009-05-27T22:14:29.152-04:002009-05-27T22:14:29.152-04:00It's good to call out craziness. I've got Twisty f...It's good to call out craziness. I've got Twisty fatigue, that's my problem. For a while I could read that site and say "Whoa, that's...special. I'm going to get some popcorn. You need anything, Twizzler? Rasinets?" But after a while the crazy hateful (and the 'I didn't say anything hateful, you must be illiterate') just stopped being offensive in a way I found entertaining and started depressing the hell out of me.Pervtasticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-31966309293044807052009-05-27T21:54:10.525-04:002009-05-27T21:54:10.525-04:00Pervtastic - Just because you already know she's c...Pervtastic - Just because you already know she's crazy doesn't make her less crazy, man.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-8959180245891726372009-05-27T21:08:10.354-04:002009-05-27T21:08:10.354-04:00First comment at Twisty's place: Picture it in a w...First comment at Twisty's place: <I>Picture it in a world where dudes hug each other without cringing. Not that such a world could ever exist.</I>I love this. Apparently, post-patriarchy, post-racism, post-whatever, men will still be unable to hug without cringing. I guess she's arguing, I don't know, determinism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-53967356173453603322009-05-27T17:02:15.653-04:002009-05-27T17:02:15.653-04:00Pervtastic-- It's HOLLY PERVOCRACY! She likes poki...Pervtastic-- It's HOLLY PERVOCRACY! She likes poking fun of dogmatic wack-jobs. Why is this a surprise?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-44486993084408811312009-05-27T15:47:40.244-04:002009-05-27T15:47:40.244-04:00It's TWISTY FASTER! What is this a freaking surpri...It's TWISTY FASTER! What is this a freaking surprise? Stop reading that site, just stop. If you can't resist typing in the URL get some of that blocker software.Pervtasticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-10372944131269051272009-05-27T02:35:21.189-04:002009-05-27T02:35:21.189-04:00Anonymous - Well, hugging is basically sex. Or at ...Anonymous - Well, hugging is basically sex. Or at least that's how I justified some of my stories in high school.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-49326573004807027162009-05-27T02:30:01.762-04:002009-05-27T02:30:01.762-04:00So if a high-ranking man hugs a subordinate or sem...So if a high-ranking man hugs a subordinate or semi-subordinate, he's gay and oppressing him in the name of the patriarchy. Got it then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com