tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post5981893277065971911..comments2024-03-22T05:55:48.117-04:00Comments on The Pervocracy: Prove it.Cliff Pervocracyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-74430607718417560482013-03-24T12:32:31.285-04:002013-03-24T12:32:31.285-04:00I would take a million dollars to be male, IF I di...I would take a million dollars to be male, IF I didn't have to get an operation, just change gender.<br />I'd just spend the rest of my days at home and wear jeans and t-shirt just like I do now. Would be a bit difficult to get used to a male name and pronouns, but for a million dollars, I'd absolutely do it. <br /><br />I would not, however, change anything about my body for money. Neither sell a kidney nor sell my reproductive organs. I'm rather attached to them. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-7401788987862461452013-03-02T14:48:01.016-05:002013-03-02T14:48:01.016-05:00Been reading as I work my way to the present.... a...Been reading as I work my way to the present.... and I'm remembering the whole "would you take a million dollars to switch from male to female or vice versa" thought experiment. And also mulling this concept of asexuality. I used to wonder if I was somewhat asexual. Except I've figured out I just haven't worked out all the obstacles surrounding piv sex for me..... Sex itself is definitely a yummy thing to have periodically.<br /><br />Do people ever talk about the concept of maybe being agender? Like.... I don't think I'd take a million dollars to be male.... because I don't think I want to be male..... but I might take a million dollars to be Neither Male Nor Female. I'm a lot more No That Male Thing Definitely Isn't Me than I am You'll Take My Femaleness Over My Dead Body.....<br /><br />I dunno.... just more to to think about.... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-80179855108101299582011-07-06T02:56:51.203-04:002011-07-06T02:56:51.203-04:00I remember a similar incident. A boy came up to me...I remember a similar incident. A boy came up to me in elementary school and demanded I prove that I was a girl.<br /><br />My response was something along the lines of "Well, I don't quite think I am, but I know that you *are* a brat."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-83760037602053299062011-06-09T01:29:04.804-04:002011-06-09T01:29:04.804-04:00Are... are gay men not real men? Is this a thing?...Are... are gay men not real men? Is this a thing? Cuz I know a lot of gay men, and they seem pretty dude-tastic. (Seriously, guy-guy relationships work <i>weird.</i> I've given up trying to understand, I just smile and say "I'm glad you're happy." Also, the whole bit about gay guys being more into personal grooming and cleanliness than straight guys? IT IS A MYTH. Some are, sure, but I've been in some gay guys' bathrooms that are exactly like you'd expect a bathroom to be in a house inhabited solely by men.) I'm just saying, other than the whole "liking dudes" thing, the gay men I've known have all been pretty goddamn manly.<br /><br />Regarding the "prove you're a girl" on the bus scenario - I vaguely remember comparable incidents as a kid, but I tended to respond to them with the blank stare of "you are strange and off-putting; I'm going to ignore you now." (I didn't actually have a lot of friends in elementary school, possibly because of this method of conflict resolution; I'm kind of ok with that.)Kristycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321532023627519016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-89077084795427798402011-06-01T14:59:29.098-04:002011-06-01T14:59:29.098-04:00Gah. Being a queer transman just turns this up to...Gah. Being a queer transman just turns this up to eleven; you get people who INSIST they're all for gender equality nagging me for how do I KNOW I'm not just a lesbian, and I don't get to be a real man until I buy myself a big fancy surgically constructed penis.<br /><br />Do you have ANY idea what one of those fuckers COSTS on the white market? It's insane! I could fund a fucking college education for the cost of one penis!<br /><br />Thanks to having surgery, I now have a ridiculously formal letter that states that because I have had surgery, I am now "functioning in my male gender."<br /><br />That's right. Only NOW could I get my paperwork changed because I whacked off my tits.<br /><br />I kinda want it framed on my wall, just for the stupidity of it.<br /><br />--RoganLBThttp://baaingtree.deviantart.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-25524073072079245492011-05-31T22:38:35.197-04:002011-05-31T22:38:35.197-04:00"For a woman to change her appearance for the..."For a woman to change her appearance for the sole purpose of looking "more like a woman" ought to be as silly as dressing your dog up as a dog."<br /><br />Best line of the weekBroadSnarkhttp://www.broadsnark.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-34508319298422914912011-05-28T22:07:55.866-04:002011-05-28T22:07:55.866-04:00I find it funny how people used to assume that I w...I find it funny how people used to assume that I was gay because I didn't specify that I was straight. Apparently if you do not say that you are straight, you are by default gay.David Thomsenhttp://www.katspuppets.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-33439629137598777622011-05-28T21:15:55.753-04:002011-05-28T21:15:55.753-04:00Wow. That just confirms for me the wisdom of my p...Wow. That just confirms for me the wisdom of my policy against reading unmoderated internet comments. <br /><br />I hear the "indoctrination" accusations a lot in totally mainstream, non-anonymous contexts too, though. Getting everyone to agree on public education is probably impossible, but it makes it impossible for anyone to even try.Emmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-60287761994926066352011-05-28T15:47:08.623-04:002011-05-28T15:47:08.623-04:00@perversecowgirl - I saw a few comments where peop...@perversecowgirl - I saw a few comments where people didn't even mention 'vagina equals girl.' Just 'you can tell the gender by whether it has a penis or not!' Thought it definitely said something about gender roles - men are more important than women (or "not men" as this comment implied) and they show they are men by not being like women. Which gets back to the whole street-and-other-harassment-proving-your-masculinity thing.MinervaBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-57774871732412632452011-05-28T15:42:37.467-04:002011-05-28T15:42:37.467-04:00@Emma - I've read the comments section on the ...@Emma - I've read the comments section on the ungendered child article. It's not just Godwin light. About every 10-15 comments, someone would proclaim that "It's a child, not an experiment! These so-called parents are just like Mengele!" And then they would insist that Storm is a boy because zir picture in the article clearly showed masculine features.MinervaBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-90967225783780913752011-05-28T15:28:07.500-04:002011-05-28T15:28:07.500-04:00I've seen articles about the Canadian couple&#...I've seen articles about the Canadian couple's "genderless" baby in a few spots, and what gets me most is the frothing rage in the comments. It is just <i>so damn important to these people</i> that they know the genital configuration of this baby! How dare the parents not tell them! What gives them the right to withhold this super-vital information?!<br /><br />Plus of course you always get the rants about "Penis equals BOY and vagina equals GIRL, period!" and "What do they mean, let the kid choose a gender later on? You can't just <i>choose</i> a <i>gender</i>!" Yeah, well, tell that to trans people*.<br /><br />*I know that trans people aren't "choosing a gender", they're living as the gender they actually are inside; but it still usually boils down to a person with a penis living as female or a person with a vagina living as male, which is what the rude commenters are talking about anyway.perversecowgirlhttp://www.perversecowgirl.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-77779098986605464272011-05-28T13:32:30.228-04:002011-05-28T13:32:30.228-04:00"imposing their ideology on four-month-old St..."imposing their ideology on four-month-old Storm."<br /><br />I thought we just called that raising your children?<br /><br />People use this language all the time when they don't like how parents, or especially teachers are telling kids something. Agree with what kids are learning? Then it's teaching. Don't agree? That's indoctrination! It drives me nuts because it completely shuts down any actual discussion about teaching. I've started thinking of it as a sort of Godwin's light, where you don't come out and say people are Nazis, but you imply that they're some kind of totalitarian pawn.Emmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-57294292086148949582011-05-28T12:08:31.171-04:002011-05-28T12:08:31.171-04:00Personally, I think it's a little bit cruel to...Personally, I think it's a little bit cruel to raise a baby <i>with</i> a presumptive gender.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-64273579901907951172011-05-28T12:07:13.627-04:002011-05-28T12:07:13.627-04:00Hahahahahahahahah. From that article about the Ca...Hahahahahahahahah. From that article about the Canadian couple with the baby of unknown gender: <i>Kathy Witterick and David Stocker have been widely criticised for imposing their ideology on four-month-old Storm.</i><br /><br />Y'know, as opposed to everyone <b>else</b> imposing their ideology on the baby, instead.perlhaqrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-81033140096291020492011-05-28T10:21:21.248-04:002011-05-28T10:21:21.248-04:00I know it's a little late, but the men-centere...I know it's a little late, but the men-centered skin/hair product slogan that really, really grated on my nerves was "man-suit." Or "man-hide." Or "man-skin." It's like mens' skins are some sort of prized pelt that we must protect from Canadian pelt tradesmen (gay pelt tradesmens at that, probably). <br /><br />Honestly, it always gave me the image of a reverse Silence of The Lambs scenario. Like some deranged executive at Old Spice or wherever was trapping dudes to make his man-suit. My partner and I, whenever the commercials were on, would add after the tagline "it buys the Old Spice or else it gets the hose again!"<br /><br />JMbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-12008475963687519152011-05-28T09:29:46.725-04:002011-05-28T09:29:46.725-04:00I have no idea why people bust a gut if you misgen...I have no idea why people bust a gut if you misgender a dog, but I've had it happen to me, so I always ask "he or she?" when meeting a new dog. It's silly, but some people do get upset.hellkellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01261590458160683895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-85987773290304862052011-05-28T08:50:01.960-04:002011-05-28T08:50:01.960-04:00I can definitely say that even when I try to avoid...I can definitely say that even when I try to avoid the stupidity of gender roles, there's always a bit of apprehension when I'm trying to pick out shower products. I'm a guy, but I have long hair - what shampoo do I use? Will I be judged if I get the "wrong" kind? What will that random woman with her screaming three year old think of me for buying a shampoo meant for women? When I'm buying shower gel, does that random guy know I use a loofah, and is he judging me for it?<br /><br />Quite frankly, it's freaking exhausting. And even knowing it's ridiculous and stupid, I can't escape it. And this is something I only need to do once every couple of weeks; there's plenty of crap that I - and, surely, many other men and women - get judged for every damn day. It's enough to make me want to scream, but I can't, for fear that'd make me a woman.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01346684835325010119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-78412261055187798552011-05-28T07:10:57.102-04:002011-05-28T07:10:57.102-04:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85HT4Om6JT4
I'...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85HT4Om6JT4<br /><br />I'm not sure if this show has made it across the pond. I kind of like that it makes fun of double-standards and manages to point them out as silly, rather than come off as "ha ha, hate to be a woman and have to put up with that."Forkishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01790182121481532330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-4790232713769503672011-05-28T03:26:28.856-04:002011-05-28T03:26:28.856-04:00I am always entertained by watching people apologi...I am always entertained by watching people apologize for mis-gendering my dogs. They are both very fluffy males, and people usually assume that one or both of them are female, and then get terribly worried by having used the "wrong" pronoun for a creature that couldn't care less what you're saying unless it is in one way or another connected to food, scritches, or walkies. <br /><br />I also now want to dress my dogs up as each other. It would be delightfully surreal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-21438358097313771602011-05-28T02:11:49.203-04:002011-05-28T02:11:49.203-04:00Finally I get to link this; a bit how Steve Hughes...Finally I get to link this; a bit how Steve Hughes defends picking girly subjects like cooking over sports in high school:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in9SiDtJLaUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-28093335264167341272011-05-28T00:54:01.405-04:002011-05-28T00:54:01.405-04:00What I don't get - why do we need to tell peop...What I don't get - why do we need to tell people the gender of our pets? I had a cat once that the entire family believed was male, then she had kittens. One trip to the vet later and she was treated exactly the same as before. <br />If someone called her "he" I wouldn't bust a gut, ya know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-8208380785324208312011-05-27T22:52:32.747-04:002011-05-27T22:52:32.747-04:00I was talking to a guy who owned a female retrieve...I was talking to a guy who owned a female retriever puppy named Dallas, recently, and the fact that she was wearing a pale pink collar was the only thing that kept me from tripping over pronouns the whole time I was talking about her.<br /><br />I don't think it's necessary to apply gender cues to your pet, but it does seem a pragmatic choice on a dog if people are guessing wrong, and you don't enjoy watching the kind of conversational crashes that result. (I've got enough of an edge to me that I do rather enjoy it, at least for a while.)Camillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15097137138778339958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-49134371269234842992011-05-27T22:42:25.968-04:002011-05-27T22:42:25.968-04:00How timely. I literally looked at this story just...How timely. I literally looked at this story just before I checked your feed and came here:<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13581835<br /><br />It's about the Canadian child whose parents are refusing to disclose hir gender.<br /><br />I don't get the enforced gender roles thing. I don't. Because if men are naturally one way and women another, the way a lot of people think it is, then why does our fucked-up culture HAVE to push to make sure EVERYONE is defined as either a man or a woman, and that their gender is communicated in socially-acceptable way?<br /><br />I mean, if it's "natural" for men to be "manly" and for women to be "womanly," then why force the issue? If it's natural, you won't be able to PREVENT it from manifesting. Just like you don't try to make goats into dogs or sheep into chickens. I mean, okay, some people can be pretty obnoxious re: wanting animals to be something other than what they are, but hopefully I've made my point clearly enough to be understood.<br /><br />Why waste all that time and energy trying to force something that is, according to many of these same people, a foregone conclusion? Because the assertion that boys must act like boys and dress like boys in order to be considered boys seems to me to be an admission that gender is NOT fixed at birth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-30772691130242102352011-05-27T22:05:49.363-04:002011-05-27T22:05:49.363-04:00Holly - And then photoshopping all the pictures of...Holly - And then photoshopping all the pictures of it!<br /><br />trickunicorn - people are so insistent on animals having human gender. We had a male cat with a female name, and occasionally people would actually try to talk about his relationship with our other male cat in terms of him being "the girl." WTF? They're cats, they don't understand what you've named them. Their relationship is about cuddling and trying to steal food.Emmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-63325693363789392632011-05-27T21:57:23.340-04:002011-05-27T21:57:23.340-04:00Anonymous, I think you're right about not want...Anonymous, I think you're right about not wanting to be a woman / not wanting to be gay being very intimately related. I've always felt that the major cause of homophobia is that being queer makes you impossible to stamp into a classic gender mold.Nentuabynoreply@blogger.com