tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post7084401735214776729..comments2024-03-22T05:55:48.117-04:00Comments on The Pervocracy: Various quick thoughts.Cliff Pervocracyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-40281234817751535602013-10-19T01:04:59.913-04:002013-10-19T01:04:59.913-04:00Oh man, Trevor Moore...who didn't have a crush...Oh man, Trevor Moore...who didn't have a crush on him?Kaylahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06319561373927664741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-78384971444764097142010-12-27T17:19:29.323-05:002010-12-27T17:19:29.323-05:001) I prefer giving what I call "The Spocker&q...1) I prefer giving what I call "The Spocker", which for Star Trek fans should be obvious. 2 and 2.<br /><br />2) At the risk of being one of many "show us your tits" posts, I like-a deh curves.<br /><br />RobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-74208200013925902362010-06-24T16:23:14.345-04:002010-06-24T16:23:14.345-04:00Bruno, it makes perfect sense to the sort of perso...Bruno, it makes perfect sense to the sort of person who sees rape as manly and assertive.<br /><br />(I was that anon)hrithfrithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-29475334358650398742010-06-24T10:50:40.943-04:002010-06-24T10:50:40.943-04:00The problem with the Shocker is the pinky is not a...The problem with the Shocker is the pinky is not a very girthy finger - not that much stimulation. <br /><br />...the unshocker?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06464432800901290292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-5895206453153666812010-06-23T13:33:10.827-04:002010-06-23T13:33:10.827-04:00I always thought the point of the Shocker isn'...<i>I always thought the point of the Shocker isn't that she likes it or doesn't like it, but that she's been defeated.</i><br />Right, because what kind of psycho hosebeast would <b>enjoy</b> buttsecks?<br /><br /><i>You're not saving this person from being alone; you're keeping them from finding their ideal match.</i><br />Of course, but that that's fighting the cultural tide toward coupledom at all costs.Brunonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-73790260878788562612010-06-23T12:55:38.264-04:002010-06-23T12:55:38.264-04:00I always thought the point of the Shocker isn'...I always thought the point of the Shocker isn't that she likes it or doesn't like it, but that she's been defeated. And that it's, well, a shock; if I wanna stick a finger in someone's ass, I'll ask, or at least clearly signal my intentions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-63871671573914455182010-06-23T01:54:28.359-04:002010-06-23T01:54:28.359-04:00"-Mostly, I don't want to go to the docto..."-Mostly, I don't want to go to the doctor at all, even though I really need to, because in my experience there's a 50% chance that the answer to everything will be "You're fat. Probably all your problems stem from being fat. Have you tried eating less and exercising more?""<br /><br />Doctors say this to you? Seriously? The last time a doctor told me I was too fat was when I was an about 5 pounds heavier than I should have been child in the 70s. Yes, I became much pudgier, but no doctor through all adulthood has ever said a peep. I have perfect blood pressure and bloodwork so I imagine they really are looking at my real health and not making assumptions based on appearance.<br /><br />If a doctor in this day and age is lecturing you to lose weight, they're being shortsighted and rude to boot. I've had several doctors in my lifetime, with only the one childhood doc a fatty-lecturer, so I honestly think fat-lecturing doctors are the rarity nowadays. How'd you end up with one?Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-29058404250829532842010-06-22T21:10:40.357-04:002010-06-22T21:10:40.357-04:00Okay, one last rant:
I don't think it does a...Okay, one last rant: <br /><br />I don't think it does anyone any favours to be with them in spite of not finding them attractive. First off, most people don't want to feel as if someone's doing them a favour by deigning to be with them. Secondly, everyone (or, okay, most people. Some people are just jackasses) deserves a partner who gives them that starstruck "OMG you're so gorgeous" look sometimes. And finally, as I said, <i>people like different things</i>. The person you force yourself to like out of pity or obligation has other people who would totally fall in lust with them just as they are. You're not saving this person from being alone; you're <i>keeping them from finding their ideal match</i>.<br /><br />(This is all addressed at the world in general, not you in particular, Bruno.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-1736730995252384152010-06-22T21:04:11.293-04:002010-06-22T21:04:11.293-04:00Lately I've been on a few dates with a woman I...<i>Lately I've been on a few dates with a woman I like, but don't feel much attraction toward, and when I mention not seeing her again I'm told I should give her a chance. </i><br /><br />Ugh. I say, when you're internet dating and you get an awesome message from someone whose picture is a little <i>meh</i>, give <i>that</i> person a chance; photographs are not kind to everyone. But when you've actually met them in person - and several times, no less? Time to bail, or downgrade to friendship, or something.<br /><br />I think people always say to "give it a chance" out of self-preservation: they're thinking "Well <i>I</i> don't look like a movie star and if people went around rejecting people who don't look like movie stars, I'd die alone, so I'd better convince everyone to focus on people's personalities." Which totally ignores the fact that <i>people are attracted to all kinds of things</i>. <br /><br />If you were attracted exclusively to fat, short-haired, dykey-looking women, do you think people would urge you to give a tall thin blonde a chance? I somehow doubt it. :P<br /><br />Man, this post really opened up my can of rant-ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-71420889339524243242010-06-22T20:37:15.125-04:002010-06-22T20:37:15.125-04:00I know it's supposed to be insulting to women ...<i>I know it's supposed to be insulting to women and juvenile and stuff, but "The Shocker" seems like it would actually feel pretty good.</i><br />I wonder whether this is an extension of the idea that sex is for men.<br /><br /><i>I married a vanilla boy (who I found physically hideous, because GODDAMMIT I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE SHALLOW PEOPLE)</i><br />Similarly, I dated a woman I wasn't attracted to for much too long. Lately I've been on a few dates with a woman I like, but don't feel much attraction toward, and when I mention not seeing her again I'm told I should give her a chance.Brunonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-9848832436242139802010-06-22T20:16:26.323-04:002010-06-22T20:16:26.323-04:00I know it's supposed to be insulting to women ...<i>I know it's supposed to be insulting to women and juvenile and stuff, but "The Shocker" seems like it would actually feel pretty good. It might be awkward for your hand though.</i><br /><br />It is. First two fingers and the thumb work <b>much</b> better.perlhaqrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920117742664645165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-80976829133731971212010-06-22T16:21:58.920-04:002010-06-22T16:21:58.920-04:00We also get told repeatedly that caring about sex ...We also get told repeatedly that caring about sex (or physical appearance, for that matter) makes us shallow. So a person who would break up with someone for having different life goals or a different religion will eagerly sign on for a long term relationship with someone they're not that attracted to or with whom they are <i>wildly</i> incompatible in bed. Because, y'know, it's <i>wrong</i> to want to be with someone who looks good to you and likes the same bedroom stuff. Real adults make it all about personality.<br /><br />I was mistaken when I said, in my previous comment, that <i>guys</i> think adulthood means giving up your passions. I think everyone feels this way, actually...I married a vanilla boy (who I found physically hideous, because GODDAMMIT I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE SHALLOW PEOPLE) and repressed my kinks and stopped doing art because I was trying to make our crippled, tragic union resemble the house-in-the-suburbs thing we're all supposed to want. <br /><br />These days I've decided that my first priority is to be <i>happy</i>, even if it means having an unconventional life that some people even find disturbing or gross; my chick friends are all at the same point. So I forgot that women are victims of the minivan-and-soccer-practice paradigm, too.<br /><br />The dudefriend who told me to "grow up and lose the kinky stuff" eventually apologized, by the way. I think I finally got him to understand why repressing a fundamental part of who you are is a) soul-crushing and b) not in any way related to being a mature adult.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-4888182934532987522010-06-22T12:07:26.105-04:002010-06-22T12:07:26.105-04:00Nom de Plumage: That's pretty much exactly my...Nom de Plumage: That's pretty much exactly my experience.<br /><br />It's depressing.Dw3t-Hthrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584245136407694660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-41931470212942179042010-06-22T11:28:29.575-04:002010-06-22T11:28:29.575-04:00You know, a real, grown-up relationship.
That mak...<i>You know, a real, grown-up relationship.</i><br /><br />That makes a sad amount of sense. To stream-of-consciousness a little bit, since my thoughts don't have much logical organization here:<br /><br />Maybe societies really do have a One True Relationship style that we're all supposed to like (and magically find!) once we reach some appropriate maturity. That Relationship is also supposed to involve a minivan and soccer practice (almost said "three kids and a minivan." Wrong impression!)<br /><br />Everything Else <i>must</i> be about the sex in that interpretation. D/s? Kinky sex. Poly? Lots of kinky sex. Same-sex relationship? Kinky sex. (Also all of that may come with "... that I'm not having. Jealous!" attached. Win!) That partly explains Holly's warm fuzzies in the main post -- she's seeing the relationship for itself, rather than as a prolonged sort of sex party. I wish the rest of society would clue in, since then we could bring so much more out of the closet and the world would be a much more interesting place.Nom de Plumagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-14070246625525720482010-06-22T10:42:23.012-04:002010-06-22T10:42:23.012-04:00I don't know if guys think that a kinky girl i...<i>I don't know if guys think that a kinky girl is going to run around humping their friends' legs because she has no other dimension to her personality, or what they're afraid of. </i><br /><br />Sometimes it's that, for sure...the whole madonna/whore thing. But to a large extent I think it's the pervasive idea that growing up means giving up the things you love. "Oh, I used to draw comics but when I got my accounting job I put all that behind me." "I just can't go camping anymore, what with the wife and kids and everything..." Guys seriously seem to think that <i>enjoying</i> something is "immature" and if they're gonna "step up" and "be a man" they have to squelch all their passions (which is one reason I'm attracted to much younger guys: they usually haven't given up on their fucking <i>lives</i> yet).<br /><br />I didn't put this together until a dudefriend of mine made some comment (back when I was single) along the lines of "Y'know, at some point you're gonna have to put this kinky stuff aside. You're not a teenager anymore." And I was like "What the fuck does my age have to do with my sexual practices?" and we went on to have a discussion that made me want to punch him in the face.<br /><br />Anyway. This would explain the times when I was seeing a kinky guy (always my own age or older, btw) who seemed to appreciate my whole personality - it wasn't just casual sex - and yet suddenly he'd break it off to get into a relationship with a vanilla girl. You know, a <i>real, grown-up</i> relationship.<br /><br />Sigh.<br /><br />But now I'm living with an <i>amazing</i> boy who doesn't put such stupid constraints on relationships - and he's eleven years my junior, which I prefer anyway. So there's a happy ending.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-90955680947947383942010-06-22T09:13:47.205-04:002010-06-22T09:13:47.205-04:00We're at the birthday party for the wife in th...We're at the birthday party for the wife in the other triad on July 3rd. But there's possibilities. Bonfire is POSSIBLY 7/24. And this has become entirely too much chatty appointment-making between us rather than discussion of the blog posting, so I'll hit you further on facebook or whatnot rather than keep boring the bejesus out of the rest of the blog audience. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled Texaco Shocker-Discussion Masterpiece Theater programming...Jackhttp://www.gottiredoftypinglordsnuffleupagus.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-64310475214150221652010-06-22T08:19:46.100-04:002010-06-22T08:19:46.100-04:00Aww, happy anniversary! Sadly I found out that I ...Aww, happy anniversary! Sadly I found out that I have to work the 2nd, and I want to watch fireworks on the 4th, so that's down to the 3rd. Or whenever; I'm also free right now for July 8, 9, 11 and 12. Don't know the late July schedule yet though, but bonfires=awesome.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-81795114522964518112010-06-22T05:16:15.291-04:002010-06-22T05:16:15.291-04:00Friday's my anniversary so that's out. 4t...Friday's my anniversary so that's out. 4th of July weekend has possibilities, and I'm planning on a bonfire with Tommy, his girl, that other lovely triad you met before the movie, and a few other like-minded folks in late July while the spawn's in Florida...Lord Snuffleupagushttp://www.piercingisfun.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-47599053597054512892010-06-22T00:35:58.629-04:002010-06-22T00:35:58.629-04:00I had to look up what The Shocker was. What a wast...I had to look up what The Shocker was. What a waste of a name. I wasn't shocked at all.crayonbeamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15491234583293068846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-81627557081189370772010-06-21T23:00:42.381-04:002010-06-21T23:00:42.381-04:00The Shocker: Wait, why is this supposed to be insu...The Shocker: Wait, why is this supposed to be insulting to women? I thought it was in the category of idiotic names for normal things (like, I don't know, "hot beef injection").<br /><br />Blood draws: I generally got faint and/or turned green when stuck with needles until someone mumbled something about hydration to me. If I drink a bunch of water beforehand my body and mind both freak out less.Evan F.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-82876817971819525592010-06-21T22:04:58.784-04:002010-06-21T22:04:58.784-04:00...I think I do. I'm free Friday night. Or the......I think I do. I'm free Friday night. Or the July 2-4th weekend.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-40462376041500173132010-06-21T21:46:36.571-04:002010-06-21T21:46:36.571-04:00Holly said:
I have never been pierced (other than...Holly said: <br />I have never been pierced (other than my earlobes which so doesn't count), but play piercing is something I'm very curious about. (Except my nipples. That kind of freaks me out.) All my previous experiences with blood have come from knives. But play piercing and pierced corsets are definitely on my "want to try" list.<br /><br />********<br /><br />You have SO got to come down and visit some time. :)Lord Snuffleupagushttp://www.lordsnuffleupagus.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-80922156649584633552010-06-21T21:04:18.273-04:002010-06-21T21:04:18.273-04:00Lord Snuffleupagus - I have never been pierced (o...Lord Snuffleupagus - I have never been pierced (other than my earlobes which <i>so</i> doesn't count), but play piercing is something I'm very curious about. (Except my nipples. That kind of freaks me out.) All my previous experiences with blood have come from knives. But play piercing and pierced corsets are definitely on my "want to try" list.<br /><br />Anon - That's not unwinnable. Getting fucked is not the only route to social confidence.<br /><br />perversecowgirl - Ugh. Unfortunately I know exactly what you mean about the "dirty little secret." I don't know if guys think that a kinky girl is going to run around humping their friends' legs because she has no other dimension to her personality, or what they're afraid of.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-66182199792893542472010-06-21T20:53:16.512-04:002010-06-21T20:53:16.512-04:00Heh.
I actually had a girl request a shocker from...Heh.<br /><br />I actually had a girl request a shocker from me once. It was during a threesome<br /><br />It is actually kind of awkward for me because the pinky is a weak finger with little sensation or control (at least on my hand) but my girlfriend managed it fine.Living in Babylonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06074015464611189363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-41722803344233425032010-06-21T19:42:16.105-04:002010-06-21T19:42:16.105-04:00-Is it weird that my emotional reaction to people ...<i>-Is it weird that my emotional reaction to people with polyamorous and/or kinky households is much less "so hot" and much more "aww, warm fuzzies!"? Because it is.</i><br /><br />The idea of a long-term, committed, loving BDSM relationship is the sweetest thing ever to me (which is why I loved Secretary so much, I think, despite its flaws). I had too many years where guys made me the dirty little secret because they automatically assumed that their kinks couldn't coexist with an actual relationship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com