tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post7116634340828329231..comments2024-03-22T05:55:48.117-04:00Comments on The Pervocracy: We are the 95%.Cliff Pervocracyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comBlogger143125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-73893061406853024632014-03-19T16:16:08.934-04:002014-03-19T16:16:08.934-04:00I'm vocal and active in some local communities...I'm vocal and active in some local communities where sexual assault is problematic and people are addressing it. This leads to me being the first/only confidante for some victims. Every 20 or 30 stories, I hear something that leaves me thinking "I can't tell what they (the accused) did wrong". And then there are the growing minority of people who share the opinion that rape is not an act but an outcome. They tell us that it's rape if the victim feels violated, regardless of what actions or communication took place. These stories and opinions are what run through my head and lead to my worry about accidentally raping someone.<br /><br />I'm trying to convince myself that those people are wrong, but it's really difficult when they are quickly becoming some of the most vocal and outspoken people on the subject.Sparrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00699584405244604358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-15255120263952773372013-07-12T02:47:45.439-04:002013-07-12T02:47:45.439-04:00I guess it's great that you're trying to w...I guess it's great that you're trying to win over the people who are "confused," but actually, there ARE people out there who do and would wait for a "yes," and won't ignore a "no." There are people who, when seeing an unconscious person, do not think "time to have sex."<br /><br />I'm really sorry if that fact hurts the feelings of people who are confused by consent. But honestly, if they are confused by consent and that likely to rape someone, they shouldn't be having sex.<br /><br />If every time you drink, you hit someone, that doesn't put the blame on the alcohol and take it off you. It's on you not to drink. And it also doesn't mean that everyone hits, or even that everyone hits when they drink, or that downloading music illegally or whatever analogy means it's just a matter of time before you hit. <br /><br />And it really sucks if you're one of those people who does hit when they drink, and maybe it's because of the culture that you hit, but either way: you're hitting people. You have to do whatever you can not to hit them, even if it means you never drink again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-80550754496505345452013-04-26T02:04:49.102-04:002013-04-26T02:04:49.102-04:00I've been sexually assaulted four times, and n...I've been sexually assaulted four times, and none of those times involved "intercourse" or "oral sex." No-one who sexually assaulted me would have answered "Yes" to any of these questions. Even the legal definition of rape is not limited to sexual intercourse or oral sex.<br /><br />My experience shows me something very different from what this article says. I believe many people are capable of rape and have committed some form of sexual assault. I don't think there's a gulf between rapists and non-rapists. Rape culture doesn't just make non-rapists sound rapey and therefore shields their wonderfulness from others while allowing rapists to skate by unapprehended in the background. Rape culture means that a great many people cannot identify rape. The questions cited in the survey (Using the terms 'intercourse' [technically a heterosexual cisgender term only] and 'oral sex') show that even the survey's creators could not adequately identify sexual assault.Dylanhttp://blog.alchemistscloset.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-70730381673480445632013-02-05T01:16:31.560-05:002013-02-05T01:16:31.560-05:00Um, simply leaving the GMP does NOT negate the con...Um, simply leaving the GMP does NOT negate the convergence of evidence that Hugo Schwyzer continues to write, speak, and do harmful shit. It goes much, much deeper than his prior involvement with GMP. In fact, HS himself has written posts that very closely mirror the "my best friend raped somebody" post. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-57500314169420186772013-01-05T15:12:42.239-05:002013-01-05T15:12:42.239-05:00I get really mad about that too. One of my best f...I get really mad about that too. One of my best friends is demisexual, and one of his former partners repeatedly coerced him into sex he wasn't really in the mood for, and forced him into sex acts that he didn't want, allegedly to "help him learn to enjoy sex more." The same guy repeatedly insisted that my friend "couldn't possibly be ace, because he talks about sex so much." <br /><br />How many asexuals have to get raped before people admit that they really are a persecuted and oppressed minority?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-3294462716896340922013-01-03T15:40:54.082-05:002013-01-03T15:40:54.082-05:00Made up my mind and wrote something like that:
Ok...Made up my mind and wrote something like that:<br /><br />Ok, I cannot let it be yet. What have you done that was wrong? You treated me like an object not only ready to be taken over but also ready to be degraded. I find you dangerous not only to me but also to other women and even worse to girls, because you are manipulative and seizing the opportunity without truely respecting me as equal. I must admit me, too, disregarded you and myself but that doesn't make it better what you are doing.<br /><br />Didn't hear anything from him since and don't exspect him to bother me again. Thank you, Cliff Pervocracy, to encourage me with your writing, to make my own point and not feeling silly about it.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-23981581557980764462013-01-03T02:49:03.055-05:002013-01-03T02:49:03.055-05:00Anon for this one:
God, I don't know. Obvious...Anon for this one:<br /><br />God, I don't know. Obviously I never want to rape anyone, that's not what I don't know. I just mean, there should obviously be a line where someone is too intoxicated to obviously consent, and you should never have sex with someone who is that intoxicated. You should always check in and make sure that your partner is okay, and you should interpret the signs conservatively, and you should not have sex when you're too intoxicated to know your own consent, and all of that. But... I guess the only way to never ever ever have sex with someone who is too intoxicated to consent or while you're too intoxicated to know about consent is to never have sex when you're under the effects of anything? Never have sex while drunk or while drinking, and never have sex on medication you're unfamiliar with, or even a lot of medication you could be familiar with?<br /><br />And I'm not, honestly not, trying to strawman here, I'm not trying to back anyone into the corner of "Well OBVIOUSLY nobody ever said you should NEVER have sex with anyone who's TIPSY," but... I mean, there might just be no actual way to tell if the person you're going to have sex with is tipsy/knows their own limits or if they're drunker than they look. And you never want that to happen, but what do you do when it does?<br /><br />I mean, you can say, as long as the person is using complete sentences and not stumbling and checking in with you about your consent, and enthusiastically agreeing to specific sex acts and calling you by the correct name and everything, they're probably not too drunk? Except that apparently that was the state I was in about six months ago when I had sex with two people I didn't remember sleeping with. And I never want that to happen again, but I was consenting in the moment, and in this case I know the people and I have previously consented to sex with them, and probably will in the future. So my specific case, I just don't want them to know. I want to believe that in the moment I would have not consented to things I didn't want, but I don't know that. I don't have any memory of the situation. (I managed to use some roundabout questions and some eyewitnesses to make sure that everyone ELSE consented, which was my biggest concern.)<br /><br />Ugh. Maybe you can train your drunk instincts to make consent issues forefront of your mind even when you're impaired. Maybe we can make consent culture so natural and automatic that even blackout drunk we stop when told to stop and ask when we want something. I don't know. Maybe the rule has to be that good people never have sex while drunk, just like good people never do BDSM play while drunk.<br /><br />tl;dr a blackout drunk person can never commit to sex except I did, I'm not saying it was good, but I'm saying that maybe we're expecting too much of people to tell when someone isn't too drunk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-74871998946564835182013-01-01T02:37:36.314-05:002013-01-01T02:37:36.314-05:00I suffer the aftermath of several rapes in many di...I suffer the aftermath of several rapes in many different ways. I did not do -anything- that could be 'questionable' (if that is even a term in rape) <br /><br />Thank you for posting, and continuing to ignore the neckbeards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-68198426174989695322012-12-30T07:50:48.822-05:002012-12-30T07:50:48.822-05:00As I said above, I really don't think one shou...As I said above, I really don't think one should call it "rape" if someone has sex with someone else who's drunk but happily participating. Even if the drunk person regrets the act next day. We've all done stupid things when drunk that we regretted the next day, but this doesn't automatically mean that we were victims of a crime. Having sex with someone who's too drunk to really know what's going on and just let things happen to zir on the other hand - one can totally decide not to do that.<br /><br />Theft/robbery analogies are WAY preferable to car accident analogies due to the fact that you don't just suddenly lose control of your body the way you can suddenly lose control of a car. Stealing someone's stereo IS something that could happen due to honest miscommunication (perhaps due to alcohol being involved). I can't be bothered to come up with a plausible scenario right now, but use your imagination and you'd be able to think of something. However, everyone recognises that this possibility is a pretty remote one, so people don't feel the need to go around saying stuff like "anyone could accidentily become a thief, particularly if alcohol is involved". And I think the same goes for rape. At least if we discount statutory rape in places with a comparably high age of consent (say, seventeen-year-old sneaked into a pub with fake ID and enthusiastically hooked up with someone who thought zie was well above eighteen in an area where eighteen is the age of consent). I guess that happens now and then. But situations where one honestly mistakes non-consent for consent - yeah, you can come up with plausible scenarios where this would happen, but still, it's really not that likely. I think in the VAST majority of cases where A have sex with B against B:s will despite A not thinking of what zie did as "rape", B did NOT in fact seem enthusiastically into it, but didn't protest a lot either and A just chose to charge ahead. And you can totally decide not to do that. <br /><br />I do think the most common reason people go around saying things like "I might do X one day, you never know, anyone could happen to X" is that they're not that strongly committed to never X:ing.Jeppssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05016901164247140438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-32121364394081251072012-12-29T16:50:29.796-05:002012-12-29T16:50:29.796-05:00Sorry to beat a dead horse. I've been guilty b...Sorry to beat a dead horse. I've been guilty before of focusing too much on what I thought were nuanced situations and trying too hard to understand things from the (heterosexual) guys' point of view, which I've realized leads to emphasizing with rapists and enabling rape apologists. This <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/18/nice-guys-commit-rape-conversation-unhelpful" rel="nofollow">Guardian article</a> does a much better job of making this point.<br /><br />Wormy Apricothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03705299044278342742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-51294621426636681022012-12-29T09:36:48.592-05:002012-12-29T09:36:48.592-05:00In the following days I rememberred Cliff's ot...In the following days I rememberred Cliff's other post about the game with some guys in chat. You tell them to stop contacting you and amuse yourself while whatching how long it will take for them to respect your will. Since I told him I won't continue dating him and that I will feel relieved not to have contact with him anymore I got 3 messages, none of them did I reply. "What exactly have I done wrong?" "Hello? What kind of mistake did I make?" "Hey, are you ok? Did you spent a nice Christmas? Wish you some quiet days at the end of the year."<br />I wonder what it is that he wants: 1. He wants me to tell him what kind of asshole he is (whatever satisfaction he gets from that). 2. He wants to adjust his behaviour according to the "mistakes" he did make in order to be more successful with his next prey. 3. He wants me to change my mind. <br />I swear I'm not going to reply any of his messages by myself. If it gets annoying I will directly go to the police station and ask them to call him and tell him to stop.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-53384414485151184972012-12-28T02:14:15.814-05:002012-12-28T02:14:15.814-05:00That depends on which definition of rape we're...That depends on which definition of rape we're using. If we define it in terms whether the potential rapist knew there was no consent (i.e. we require <i>mens rea</i>) then car accidents are a horrible analogy.<br /><br />But if we define it in terms of whether the potential victim actually gave consent—which seems to the preferred definition here—there will always be at least some small possibility of a tragic, but genuine miscommunication.<br /><br />And then if we allow for situations where the victim actually did give consent (enthusiastically, even) but based on some criteria such as age or intoxication it was not valid, that adds even more ways a truly accidental rape could occur.<br /><br />That said, car accidents still aren't a <i>good</i> analogy, but he does have a point.Anonymous Trollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-86910290331499232592012-12-28T01:43:01.511-05:002012-12-28T01:43:01.511-05:00No, that won't work either, because then you d...No, that won't work either, because then you don't know how many rapes are the work of repeat offenders. Even if you asked respondents to name names, they they wouldn't always be willing or able to do so.Anonymous Trollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-49846431316293538842012-12-27T23:52:45.586-05:002012-12-27T23:52:45.586-05:00The studies asked people about their (rape) behavi...The studies asked people about their (rape) behavior. For instance:<br />"1) Have you ever attempted unsuccessfully to have intercourse with an adult by force or threat of force?<br />2) Have you ever had sexual intercourse with someone who did not want you to because they were too intoxicated to resist?<br />3) Have you ever had intercourse with someone by force or threat of force?<br />4) Have you ever had oral intercourse with someone by force or threat of force?"<br />That leaves a lot of room for sex without meaningful consent to have been initiated by the respondent and, even if the respondent is being 100% honest with themself, to answer no to all of those questions. They would then be counted in that 95% non-rapist group. But that doesn't mean that there might not be a sexual partner of theirs who thinks of what occurred between them as rape. In order to count the percentage of the population who are rapists (according to their sexual partners), you would have to ask people about whether they'd been raped, not about whether they had committed rape. That would be really hard - maybe it could work on a college campus. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-14815014643670142742012-12-27T17:28:33.220-05:002012-12-27T17:28:33.220-05:00Doesn't follow. If both parties would have sai...Doesn't follow. If both parties would have said "Hey, this is a totally dumb idea" if they'd been sober, and only said, "Okay, let's go for it" because they were too drunk to know better, then they were not truly able to consent. Same reason when you write your will you have to say that you're of sound mind, etc., and then if lawyers can prove you weren't of sound mind, the will doesn't stand up. It doesn't mean you didn't write the will at all, and lack of MEANINGFUL consent when knee-walking drunk doesn't mean that no one said any consent-shaped words or performed any consent-implying actions.Irenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-32514247313065468082012-12-27T16:53:04.903-05:002012-12-27T16:53:04.903-05:00I was excіted to fіnd this pаge. I want
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What the <i>sane</i> people are saying is: if you do not, under any circumstances, have sex with someone unless you know they welcome it, you will never commit rape. It's practically tautological.<br /><br />So, going back to your car accident metaphor, what I said above is tantamount to saying "if you never crash your car into something, you will never have been in a car accident" - which is totally true. The only difference is that you can't decide that your car's brakes will always function perfectly, or decide that a deer won't run into the road, but you <i>can</i> decide not to fuck someone. <br /><br /><i>Shit happens. People mess up. There are no certainty, no 100% safety, ever.<br />Deal with it.</i><br /><br />This sounds, in a fantastically creepy way, like you've resigned yourself to possibly raping someone at some point because mistakes are just inevitable. Like you're not even going to <i>try</i> to be a good person. Yikes.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-49056924005413064452012-12-27T03:28:29.612-05:002012-12-27T03:28:29.612-05:00The problem is that you are equating rape with car...The problem is that you are equating rape with car accidents.<br /><br />I know I've never accidentally driven my penis into anyone's vagina without their consent, because THAT NEVER HAPPENS. There's no such thing as "accidental rape"; if you think you raped someone "by accident" you were playing too close to the edge the entire time. <br /><br />And remember, the legal definition of rape usually encompasses rape by recklessness, so you're even LEGALLY culpable for information you could've gotten but didn't ask for "by mistake", because the law expects you not to play games with fucking sexual assault.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-2530136045620901762012-12-26T16:38:55.827-05:002012-12-26T16:38:55.827-05:00If they are both drunk beyond the point where they...If they are both drunk beyond the point where they could consent, no sex could possibly have happened. Either one of them is a rapist or neither is.<br /><br />Consent isn't some mystical floating attribute out there; consent of at least one person is a necessity for sex to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-6366694116629149922012-12-25T18:24:05.496-05:002012-12-25T18:24:05.496-05:00I had an insight, for me anyway, that I've bee...I had an insight, for me anyway, that I've been thinking about rape as a lack of wanting to have sex, rather than a lack of consent to it. Some of the examples cited above, like the deeply messed up person who consented to have sex for many bad reasons, are not rape. That person gave consent, even if they really wanted something else and not sex, but they consented. On the other hand, having sex when you're so drunk that your judgement is impaired is rape. Maybe you were horny and wanted sex, but you were unable to truly give consent in that situation. Similar to horny, underage teenagers, the issue is not desire, it's your capacity and expression to consent. And to the person who wondered if it was possible for two drunk people to rape each other - well, yes. Even if you both wanted to have sex. So in terms of stopping rape, focus on actively engaging in consent practices and not mind-reading or on-the-spot psychiatric assessment to change your sex practices. For the 'accidents happen' person above me, think of it as risk-reduction and due diligence, if that helps. If not, tell me how giving and obtaining active consent between sober adults can ever result in an 'accidental' rape?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-70430904791986356262012-12-24T23:43:20.359-05:002012-12-24T23:43:20.359-05:00Can I also add that this line confuses me "We...Can I also add that this line confuses me "We are the non-rapists, the people who will never commit rape and who suffer from the actions of those who do." I think my lifelong sexual experience and expectations makes me less likely to both seek and obtain consent when I have sex. I question myself on both ends of that equation. For me, at least, it's not that simple, and trying to view it that way stops me from really being honest with myself because I don't want to be cast out of the 95% and into the 5% rapist scumbag camp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-89977969876100435402012-12-24T18:29:01.323-05:002012-12-24T18:29:01.323-05:00Cool story, bro.
Shit happens. People mess up. Th...Cool story, bro.<br /><br />Shit happens. People mess up. That's why I accidentally stole my friend's stereo. I mean... there's no 100% safety, ever. They just had to deal with it.Icehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13460342659044655635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-62369287637519039732012-12-24T17:55:01.877-05:002012-12-24T17:55:01.877-05:00"If you, personally, make a commitment to nev..."If you, personally, make a commitment to never have sex without unambiguous consent, your odds of being a not-rapist are 100%."<br />I'm sorry, but that's just false. Because life is not always programmable. Bad things happen, even to good people.<br /><br />To make things clear (since rape makes people emotional and fuzzy), let's talk about car accidents; let's say just 5% of people caused a car accident (like the 5% of rapers you quoted above).<br />Does this mean that the remaining 95% will NEVER EVER cause an accident?<br />Of course it doesn't. Even if they commit to not have an accident (hey, who wants an accident by purpose?!?), someone WILL do. <br />Because people are humans, they make mistakes, and sometimes the context will help (like fog, alcohol, misunderstandings...)<br /><br />"It can't "happen to you" if you decide not to do it."<br />Sure. How many people decide to not mess up things, and they do it anyway?<br />Do you think you have total control over yourself, and over your life?<br />Just think about the unconscious part of your mind...<br /><br />Of course, I'm not excusing rape. It's a horrible crime.<br />But I understand my fellow human beings, and I know everybody make mistakes - even with the best intentions.<br />Thus I don't buy into the idealistic, theoretical claims that "We can be perfect if we just want it".<br /><br />Shit happens. People mess up. There are no certainty, no 100% safety, ever.<br />Deal with it.Valter Psicofelicitàhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16924758303810492134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-40324094416058229242012-12-23T22:22:15.906-05:002012-12-23T22:22:15.906-05:00I have some difficulty with using the theft analog...I have some difficulty with using the theft analogy - partly because the dominant culture constructs sex as something that women possess that men need to purchase, and rape is a form of theft where standard purchasing protocols are unmet (for example, the man forgot to pay the woman's father the bride price for sexual access). The transaction analogy has never taught us how to negotiate consent and desire.<br />Also, the analogy isn't exactly perfect. Rape isn't always like someone taking your cash when you're passed out, it could be like them looking through your wallet but putting it all back before you wake up. How do you feel about that? Or haven't you ever heard the phrase "what she doesn't know won't hurt her"? And the analogies presented are very... well... so no one here downloads illegal music and tv shows? You never call in sick to work when you're feeling fine? And if you find a quarter on the sidewalk you don't just pocket it? And you would never pick up a necklace left someplace? Or live on unceded First Nations territory? C'mon - theft is a better example of how society gives some not-okay actions the green light. It's full of 'grey areas' where we feel someone owes us something, and it's a ripoff what they expect you to pay, and it's not a big deal, and it was just lying there anyway and...<br />So personally, I think we're mostly all thieves and rapists - except we don't actually steal or rape 95% of the time. And yes, we are in contrast to those who do rape and steal 95% of the time because it's a key part of their game plan.<br />For the rest of us, we fail hardest - i.e. we commit rape - when we don't know any better, we haven't thought much about it, we got confused and/or we have some semi-plausible justification for doing what we wanted to do. It's a systems failure - what we've been taught about sex has not prepared us for consent, for confusion and for our desire. I'd agree that a minority of people account for the majority of prosecutable crimes, but there IS probably a bigger grey area out there where we simply screw up because we didn't take better precautions. Knowing that, acknowledging that, is how we can stop rape, help rape survivors and be better people. Cliff is very right in this regard - if we don't clear up that grey area then we end up making excuses for a whole lotta bad. This is why it's important to challenge rape culture and understand the ways that we have been conditioned to be rapists, to be raped, to contribute to our own rapey experiences (and before you jump all over me, I'm just saying a significant chunk of my training as a woman was to remove any consideration of my own desire from the sexual equation - if that wasn't a setup to get myself raped, groped and have horrible sex, I don't know what is. I acknowledge that I'm still consenting to these experiences, except for all those times when I thought you were just a slut if you weren't drunk when you had sex, so obviously I should begin this process by making sure I got trashed).<br />Anyway, sorry for the rambling post. I just want to bring the 'but it IS confusing" people into the camp of "ok, so let's do something about this" rather than push them away. Let's all just agree to use our words and put our listening ears on and we can commit to a 100% we're-not-raping-anyone future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-12621915385177452782012-12-22T10:32:55.434-05:002012-12-22T10:32:55.434-05:00Still, if "don't get too drunk because cr...<i>Still, if "don't get too drunk because criminals may target you or you may simply end up having an accident" were a piece of advice that was thrown at men and women alike, and phrased that way, not focusing exclusively on rape, it might still be INEFFECTUAL advice to young people who like drinking, but it wouldn't be offensive the way "don't drink or MEN WILL RAPE YOU" is.</i><br /><br />This. Educating people to be alert for their surroundings and to know that being drunk/high makes you vulnerable? Common sense, because rapists are not the only predators (and women are not the only victims). But funny, this always turns into You Might Get Raped.mythagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07138471078836187498noreply@blogger.com