tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post759288351737535103..comments2024-03-22T05:55:48.117-04:00Comments on The Pervocracy: Jack asked me to post this.Cliff Pervocracyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-68467218541826548202010-08-04T19:01:39.920-04:002010-08-04T19:01:39.920-04:00Hm. I tend to be more wary of women in groups, me...Hm. I tend to be more wary of women in groups, men alone, and default to assuming anyone who makes a pass at me is too terrifying to deal with.Dw3t-Hthrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584245136407694660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-19546894126784985142010-08-04T15:27:55.224-04:002010-08-04T15:27:55.224-04:00Holly --
You're showing how immature you are ...Holly --<br /><br />You're showing how immature you are by referring to the Thundercats. An old person like me would refer to the Thunder<i>birds</i> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbirds_machines) :)Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-2143717727325501822010-08-04T15:16:27.927-04:002010-08-04T15:16:27.927-04:00Anon - Well you're the most immaturist at all ...Anon - Well you're the most immaturist at all to the power of infinity double Thundercats no takebacks. Since that seems to be the level we're playing at here.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-70818878888568717612010-08-04T04:34:44.483-04:002010-08-04T04:34:44.483-04:00Holly: "But yeah, yeah, I'll understand w...Holly: "But yeah, yeah, I'll understand when I'm older, there there little girl. Thanks buddy."<br /><br />No. I don't imagine you will ever understand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-2401466310923824002010-08-04T04:20:36.985-04:002010-08-04T04:20:36.985-04:00June Cleaver said: "So in this case feminism ...June Cleaver said: "So in this case feminism is supposed to be Jack knowing what's best for Holly when she's clearly made her choice and he's supposed to step in and "pull her out of the room"? Explain to me again how that's "feminism"? "<br /><br />What the fuck? How that is feminism?<br /><br />It's not Feminism. None of this. Get a grip. It's Kink, it's perhaps power play, probably BDSM. Feminism doesn't really enter into the equation unless you need to pretend it does.<br /><br />The fact that she submits to someone who happens to be male is her choice doesn't change the responsibility issues which anyone dabbling in these type of kink situations should grasp. That you can't, and that you framed it as a damsel in distress anti-feminist situation for someone prone to playing the dom role in her life to monitor her well being while getting passed around....suggests this is all more than your maturity level can handle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-69567166087602286982010-08-04T02:38:13.230-04:002010-08-04T02:38:13.230-04:00I have no idea how to quote from a reply so it sho...I have no idea how to quote from a reply so it shows who the reply was from so I'm stuck doing it this...<br /><br />"Long answer: No woman has ever fucked me while I was passed out drunk, punched me in the face, attempted to throw me out of a second story window, cornered me at party (and by this I mean literally backed me into a corner) and refused to let me leave until I kissed them, pounded on my door at 2AM screaming that I was a fucking cunt and they were going to kill themselves if I didn't let them in, or followed me around campus for three nights until I confronted them and threatened to call the cops. Various men have done all of the above."<br /><br />I understand where you're coming from and I find it interesting considering my personal experience. I've never had a man do anything that was even remotely as creepy/threating/stalkerish as treatment I've gotten from certain women. I've never been unwillingly hit by a man but have been punched by a woman. I've been threatened and stalked and harassed by women. Men have, occasionally, taken my friendliness to mean I was interested in "more" but never to the point where I've had to threaten them with a restraining order, like Iv'e had to do with 2 women. <br /><br />"So, yeah, it's been my experience that men are a lot more dangerous and therefore I'm a lot more cautious around them. I'm sorry if that hurts the feelings of the guys who aren't like that, but it's really not my fucking problem."<br /><br />So, yeah, it's been my experience that women are a lot more psycho and therfore I'm a lot more cautious around them. I'm sorry if that hurts the feelings of the women who aren't like that, ut it's not my fucking problem....<br /><br />Substitute "Psycho" for "cunt" or "whore" or "gold-digger". All the things women wish men wouldn't generalize, and that we complain when they do. I can understand the caution with anyone you (or anyone in general) doesn't know. What I don't get is how the double-standard is acceptable.June Clevernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-73588741244497256262010-08-03T15:42:11.813-04:002010-08-03T15:42:11.813-04:00June Cleaver:
Do you distrust men you don't k...June Cleaver:<br /><br /><i>Do you distrust men you don't know more than you distrust women you don't know? Or, as a reasonable human being, do you think "Hmm...there's a person I don't know. Best not give them my address and social security number"? Do you distrust strangers equally or are men, for some reason, worthy of even less "trust" than a female stranger?</i><br /><br />Short answer: yes.<br /><br />Long answer: No woman has ever fucked me while I was passed out drunk, punched me in the face, attempted to throw me out of a second story window, cornered me at party (and by this I mean literally backed me into a corner) and refused to let me leave until I kissed them, pounded on my door at 2AM screaming that I was a fucking cunt and they were going to kill themselves if I didn't let them in, or followed me around campus for three nights until I confronted them and threatened to call the cops. Various men have done all of the above. So, yeah, it's been my experience that men are a lot more dangerous and therefore I'm a lot more cautious around them. I'm sorry if that hurts the feelings of the guys who aren't like that, but it's really not my fucking problem.aebhelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-69678056534116209572010-08-03T14:48:42.203-04:002010-08-03T14:48:42.203-04:00One of the comment threads on Slacktivist is talki...One of the comment threads on Slacktivist is talking about requests that women smile, too, and it's made me realize what a hot button that is for me and how offended I am when asked to smile, either individually or as part of "women should...."<br /><br />I have a martial arts instructor who periodically interrupts my solo waza to criticize my lack of smile, and I HATE THIS. He's been doing it for years, and it's pretty obvious that it's about him getting warm fuzzies from a class of smiling students. But it distracts me horribly. I don't naturally smile in any but a social context, and solo waza are not social! And I really resent being torn away from thinking hard about what I'm doing, and being asked to falsify my expression in order to bolster his insecurities.<br /><br />His grown daughter finally told him to stop, and at least he's toned it down a bit now.<br /><br />I feel it's an ethical requirement to be polite and civil to strangers. I don't feel it's an ethical requirement, for either gender, to be friendly with strangers all the time. It's fine to do so, but it's also fine NOT to do so when you don't want to. Extroverts find it easier, but it's very unfair to introverts to treat extroverts as the norm. And I bet even extroverts have moments when they are doing something internal and do not want to be friendly.MaryKayenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-85205996997054782092010-08-02T11:03:36.487-04:002010-08-02T11:03:36.487-04:00Anon 2:05 - You also described 1-2 situations that...Anon 2:05 - <i>You also described 1-2 situations that probably should have either been left at fantasy, or should have been well coordinated experiences, rather than "it just broke out at a party, I was incoherent drunk, and getting passed around". </i><br />What part needs to be left as fantasy? Having sex with more than one guy in a night? Playing around with submission and degradation? Oh horrors. I was slightly tipsy, not blackout drunk, and I was passing myself around.<br /><br /><i>The fact that you made it sound like you didn't know who you did or didn't engage in sexual acts with raises consent issues.</i><br />I know who! I'm sorry if it sounded like I didn't, but yes, I know exactly who I fucked, thankyouverymuch.<br /><br /><i>The fact that the guy who is supposed to be looking out for you in those scenarios, who is encouraging this activity rather than pulling you out of the room,</i><br />I would have been pissed as hell if he'd pulled me out of the room. To the extent he was "looking out for me," it was in making sure my wishes were respected, not telling me which wishes to have.<br /><br /><i>sometimes it seems like it's really you who needs to gain perspective...to your approach, limits, etc.</i><br />Oh, I'm sorry Boss, what approach and limits should I have? Which ones would be most appropriate for a delicate little doll like me?<br /><br /><i>I don't think you're really ready to think about that though. You'll just write it off as people shaming/judging you.</i><br />Yes, yes, I'll understand when I'm older. You do get that I'm an adult and that I've been doing kinky shit for my entire postpubescent life?<br /><br /><i>That's why the typical dynamic cliche is the powerful CEO who likes to be beat...and not the young girl, dealing with body issues, and other personal things, finding her way in life.</i><br />I can't get my life perfect before being kinky. That's okay. If I were much crazier than I was--say, if I were actually very young and consumed with body issues, rather than just mid-twenties and "bleh, I'm not Barbie"--I'd still be a pervert! It's not something you have to qualify for, and otherwise you're only allowed to be vanilla.<br /><br /><i>Not to say you're powerless, but it really hints more towards a cycle of learned abuse scenario that doesn't jive with some of the ideals you have express in this blog. </i><br />This stuff feels good to me. Not like "I deserve this" good, like orgasms good. That's not abuse, learned or otherwise. It's just sexy.<br /><br />But yeah, yeah, I'll understand when I'm older, there there little girl. Thanks buddy.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-48924752382746230222010-08-02T11:02:04.937-04:002010-08-02T11:02:04.937-04:00I failed to get some in-jokes but it didn't ma...I failed to get some in-jokes but it didn't make me hate the commenters; hey, it's not my blog.<br /><br />I do love the format whereby earlier comments get referenced like "Jack (9:24)" -- it makes everything look like a crazy smutty Bible verse.<br /><br />flightlessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-19185522816270381082010-08-02T04:10:22.739-04:002010-08-02T04:10:22.739-04:00"The fact that the guy who is supposed to be ..."The fact that the guy who is supposed to be looking out for you in those scenarios, who is encouraging this activity rather than pulling you out of the room, also has a fundamental misunderstanding of how feminism works, or a woman's right to pick and choose who they show their tits too, suggests he's not the best person to play that role for you."<br /><br /><br />I've re-read this about 10 times and it just doesn't sit right with me. Imma have to break 'em down 1 by 1...<br /><br />1) Jack wasn't specifically "looking out for her" although Im sure he was in a "friend looking out for another friend" sort of way. And, maybe he was watching more closely than we know. <br /><br />2) He's "encouraging her behavior"? Right, because Holly wasn't having rough, kinky sex before moving and meeting Jack. She met Jack and he thrust his hand up her white eyelet-trimmed skirt and stole her virginity and made a whore out of her. It's not at all possible that Holly and Jack are equals in thier little adventure. The big dominant man is obviously coercing the fragile little girl into situations she wouldn't normally put herself in. <br /><br />3) He is supposed to be more conscience of "How feminism works" yet he's supposed to step in the middle of a scene and scoop Holly up in his arms and whisk her away from the mean and scary fetish people? So in this case feminism is supposed to be Jack knowing what's best for Holly when she's clearly made her choice and he's supposed to step in and "pull her out of the room"? Explain to me again how that's "feminism"? <br /><br />Honestly, I think willingly involving yourself in this type of scene is something people aren't going to totally "get" unless they have the same "kink". It may seem, to some women, that this is the farthest thing from being a feminist as one can get but, in reality, it's not. Holly had more power, in that situation, than most people would think. Given that it was a party of obviously kinky people who evidently knew each other, had Holly really wanted things to stop and "safeworded" (used the most commonly used word, anyway) 9 of the 10 guys involved (or however many were there) would have been familiar enough with that word to stop and they'd have stopped the one guy who didn't get it. One thing I've found with "Kinky friends" is that boundries tend to be respected way more between kinky people than between "vanilla" people. Limits are set and while those limits may be slightly pushed, they are very rarely crossed. Holly has the right to choose to do whatever it is she wants to do with her body and I respect her choice to occasionally get fucked by a party full of friends (and, did I mention, envy?). It's her body. It's her life. It's her choice. Who are we to judge what she does?June Clevernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-19557281411058889302010-08-02T04:09:59.607-04:002010-08-02T04:09:59.607-04:00"If you want to fuck an entire party, again, ..."If you want to fuck an entire party, again, that shouldn't be a spontaneous thing."<br /><br />Yeah, sometimes it should be a spontaneous thing because, sometimes, the not knowing, and the spontanaity, is the fantasy. <br /><br />"The fact that the guy who is supposed to be looking out for you in those scenarios, who is encouraging this activity rather than pulling you out of the room, also has a fundamental misunderstanding of how feminism works, or a woman's right to pick and choose who they show their tits too, suggests he's not the best person to play that role for you."<br /><br />Was Jack supposed to be looking our for her at the party? I got the impression that they happened to be at the same party and ended up playing together but I certainly didn't see it mention anywhere that Jack was there in any sort of supervisory role. And besides, how do we know he wasn't. Jack's (untold) version of the party is likely a very different story than Holly's. He can probably tell her exactly who she fucked, and was fucked by. It's very possible that Jack was watching out for Holly's well being and didn't see any reason to stop the "scene". I'm sure they have a safeword worked out (I think Holly posted about it recently) and would have stopped everything if it was used. But, being as this wasn't a formerly agreed upon scenario, it's likely that he was watching out for her, safeword usage or not. The fact is, we don't know because Jack hasn't (as far as I know) added any of his own details about the party. You assume that he wasn't looking out for her but I don't see any reason to come to that conclusion.June Clevernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-91050029369897698632010-08-02T03:33:52.319-04:002010-08-02T03:33:52.319-04:00"June Clever 3:31 am, and John B 5:54 am -- b..."June Clever 3:31 am, and John B 5:54 am -- both have posted on this blog before, possibly both before I even started reading it, and yet I have a sneaking suspicion that someone will accuse them both of being sock puppets of mine. :)"<br /><br />Jack, if Holly met you since she moved then yes, I was reading/commenting quite a while before you started reading here. <br /><br />As for that sock puppet comment, from what Holly has said about you, I don't think I'd mind that too much ;)June Clevernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-33282318481594515852010-08-02T02:05:29.364-04:002010-08-02T02:05:29.364-04:00Jack is probably a nice guy, but you enjoy your se...Jack is probably a nice guy, but you enjoy your sex mean, and degrading, so that colors the character a little. You also described 1-2 situations that probably should have either been left at fantasy, or should have been well coordinated experiences, rather than "it just broke out at a party, I was incoherent drunk, and getting passed around". <br /><br />The fact that you made it sound like you didn't know who you did or didn't engage in sexual acts with raises consent issues. If you want to fuck an entire party, again, that shouldn't be a spontaneous thing.<br /><br />The fact that the guy who is supposed to be looking out for you in those scenarios, who is encouraging this activity rather than pulling you out of the room, also has a fundamental misunderstanding of how feminism works, or a woman's right to pick and choose who they show their tits too, suggests he's not the best person to play that role for you.<br /><br />Aside from that - It's not about Jack really. People are giving you strong reactions to your personal choices, and when the conversations start to involve a peanut gallery who happens to be the guy you're experimenting with well..... sometimes it seems like it's really you who needs to gain perspective...to your approach, limits, etc. <br /><br />I don't think you're really ready to think about that though. You'll just write it off as people shaming/judging you. Take the degradation play...there's a difference from someone who likes abuse, and someone who feels as if they deserve abuse, because they're dirt ,and not worthy of respect. That's why the typical dynamic cliche is the powerful CEO who likes to be beat...and not the young girl, dealing with body issues, and other personal things, finding her way in life. Not to say you're powerless, but it really hints more towards a cycle of learned abuse scenario that doesn't jive with some of the ideals you have express in this blog. <br /><br />Ultimately, what readers think is meaningless though. Stay safe, do things that make you happy, and consider how you'll look back on them in 10 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-65417728742764707082010-08-01T14:53:22.820-04:002010-08-01T14:53:22.820-04:00I think the issue with the "show me your cock...I think the issue with the "show me your cock/tits" scenario is that it changes <i>a ton</i> depending on how you're imagining it. <br /><br />The way I was was in contrasting whether it would be possible for a strange woman to walk up to a strange man at a party and say "I heard you have a huge cock, can I see it?" and for the man to be flattered or at worst case kinda weirded out and turned off (and yes, maybe putting her in in his "psycho, avoid" column), whereas if you reverse the genders in the <i>exact same situation as just that</i>- NOT right after the strange woman has just requested to see your cock- almost all women would have their internal alarms sounding and perceive some degree of threat. Not "oh my god he's a rapist, mace him", but "this guy has no sense of boundaries, let's go have a drink on the other side of the room not alone". And yeah, while it would be fucking awesome if the world were such that it would be completely sensible for the woman to treat man-with-no-boundaries like a man would treat woman-with-no-boundaries, the world ain't and it isn't.<br /><br />"Should women be as willing as (a generalization of men) to interact with a stranger in a degree that involves some sexualization just because they asked and they're probably a nice guy" is a totally different discussion than "should women be polite and friendly in the same default nonsexual way they would be with strange women until given a reason not to", and I don't think all of us are having the same one.LabRathttp://www.atomicnerds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-76349515550931897992010-08-01T12:29:10.590-04:002010-08-01T12:29:10.590-04:00June Clever 3:31 am, and John B 5:54 am -- both ha...June Clever 3:31 am, and John B 5:54 am -- both have posted on this blog before, possibly both before I even started reading it, and yet I have a sneaking suspicion that someone will accuse them both of being sock puppets of mine. :)<br /><br />JackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-53669428653322125852010-08-01T08:23:15.324-04:002010-08-01T08:23:15.324-04:00I think June Clever is making an important point h...I think June Clever is making an important point here, and it's one that I don't know the answer to. Because I think it would be great if the genders were treated equally. But I also think it's ridiculous to say Holly's "I heard you have a huge cock. Can I see?" line can be regarded equally if gender-reversed. On the other side, I treat women who trigger an alarm flag differently; because I'm in for a much uglier legal experience if I have to defend myself against a woman, which isn't so rare as all that, a hinky woman gets much more avoidance and much less in the way of second chances to appear normal than a hinky man. Attackers tell the police you attacked them as a matter of course.Mousie00noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-39480417422759455032010-08-01T05:54:47.450-04:002010-08-01T05:54:47.450-04:00I don't hate Jack, I do, ENVY THE FUCK OUTA HI...I don't hate Jack, I do, ENVY THE FUCK OUTA HIM!<br /><br />glad we could clear that up!<br /><br />The other Jack!John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875185117306503147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-7038578470158778652010-08-01T03:34:59.681-04:002010-08-01T03:34:59.681-04:00"Jack (9:24)- I don't judge men I don'..."Jack (9:24)- I don't judge men I don't know in the sense that I sit around thinking up bad things about them. But I sure as fuck don't trust them on sight or assume that they won't hurt me just because they have a nice smile and hold the door. I've been fucked over by that kind of assumption enough times that I'd rather have random guys think I'm a bitch than risk getting fucked over again. "<br /><br />Do you distrust men you don't know more than you distrust women you don't know? Or, as a reasonable human being, do you think "Hmm...there's a person I don't know. Best not give them my address and social security number"? Do you distrust strangers equally or are men, for some reason, worthy of even less "trust" than a female stranger?June Clevernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-82859833453904045602010-08-01T03:31:17.742-04:002010-08-01T03:31:17.742-04:00My take on the "We hate Jack" thing is t...My take on the "We hate Jack" thing is that it seems you have a few readers who are of the mind that women need to be respected as equals and people shouldn't be treated any different because of their gender...except for men who are all big scary potential rapists. And, if they aren't rapists, then one of their friend's is and they cheer on that friend and support his behavior. Anyone who speaks out and says that that line of thinking is fucked up is immediately looked at as a chauvinist who thinks women are only put on Earth to serve men and suck cock. I've noticed, in some of your feminism posts, that some women are very quick to speak out against stereotyping women and then, in the next sentence, will do the same thing to men. Either way, it's still sexism and, IMO, still wrong.June Clevernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-722240938371530932010-08-01T03:29:47.645-04:002010-08-01T03:29:47.645-04:00I guess my whole issue is that while this is someo...I guess my whole issue is that while this is someone who clearly you know/knows you well enough to make jokes about certain things--because you know he's joking, or know that he's a decent guy who respects you, et cetera--<i>I</i> (and most of the other commenters) don't know him from Adam. This means that joking comments come across as being deeply skeevy and misogynistic, simply because I have no idea where the guy's views actually lie.<br /><br />Jack (9:24)- I don't judge men I don't know in the sense that I sit around thinking up bad things about them. But I sure as fuck don't trust them on sight or assume that they won't hurt me just because they have a nice smile and hold the door. I've been fucked over by that kind of assumption enough times that I'd rather have random guys think I'm a bitch than risk getting fucked over again.aebhelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-14625370428536131482010-08-01T03:29:36.565-04:002010-08-01T03:29:36.565-04:00"A few posts ago, Holly, you made the perfect..."A few posts ago, Holly, you made the perfectly reasonable comment that you need to talk to a guy for an hour or two before showing him your tits. Jack seemed to be offended that anyone should need time to acclimate to someone before becoming intimate."<br /><br />That's absolutely perfectly reasonable. I wouldn't expect any woman (save for a few specific examples, under specific conditions) to show her tits to any man who asked and I'd expect most reasonable women would need some time to get to know a man before honoring such a request. However, when that comment is made by a woman who just stated that she approached a man by saying "Show me your cock" well, then you sort of lose some creditability as far as appropriate comments upon meeting someone. <br /><br />Holly has been posting a lot recently about equality and not assigning gender roles and then, IMO, did the exact thing she is saying she's so against. She approached a man with an outrageously inappropriately comment and then went on to say how offended she'd be if somsone made the same comment (well, similar comment) to her. WTF? <br /><br />And, I'm sorry, I don't buy the "Well, men are potential rapists/stalkers/whack-jobs". Yeah, they are. So are women. Women stalk men every day. Women attack and hurt and kill men every day. Maybe not as often, but it happens. Any man, meeting any women, doesn't know that she's not bat-shit crazy and won't stalk him and break into his house and hide in his closet and attack him with a large net and a sock full of Chloroform. Women may not attack/hurt/kill men with the same frequency, but they still do it and men still have to be aware of that fact when meeting someone. Encountering a crazy stalker type isn't a woman problem. It's a problem for anyone out in the world meeting people. <br /><br />"The problem--which you may have been somewhat sheltered from as a man and a rather physically imposing one at that--is that just smiling and being friendly is enough to flip certain psychos into Hunter/Killer mode. There are a lot of psychos out there who will take a smile as enough of an opener to be at a minimum creepy and at worst seriously aggressive. "<br /><br />How do you not smile and be friendly, even toward strangers? I work in a field where I deal with a lot of people (as I know you do, too) and I tend to smile, and be friendly, to all of them (unless they set off my douche-bag alarm). I guess I'm just surprised, as I mentioned earlier, that someone (along with some of the commenters) would be so quick to make assumptions about a person based on gender when so many posts lately have been specifically dealing with not assuming things about a person because of gender. Or, is it only ok to label and pigeon-hole and make assumptions about one gender?<br /><br />"Creeps (mostly creeps of a certain age, but I think some young guys do it too) use "gimme a smile baby" as a stock phrase. They use it as a way of giving orders to a complete stranger and of making women more decorative for their pleasure, and women seriously hate this."<br /><br />I'll admit I smile easily and I'm an incurable flirt. However, saying "gimme a smile, Baby" is about the quickest way to quarantee you will never see me smile. You will see me scowl, and grimace, and roll my eyes. You will likely get to hear a selections of names I like to call people who are complete ass-hats. There's a good chance you'll get a good view of the back of my head (and not in the good way). The only thing that line is not likely to get you is a smile.June Clevernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-72438968950976204332010-07-31T23:03:28.510-04:002010-07-31T23:03:28.510-04:00I'd like to add that I've met the "po...I'd like to add that I've met the "polite but ready and able to kill you if necessary" vibe from the outside in the person of various combat instructors, and it is both much more pleasant to be around and much more suppressive of bad behavior than the "scowly and inclined to curse at you loudly" vibe. The "I am a sweet doormat" vibe does not really make for much better company, at least if you're a well-intentioned man.Mousie00noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-70378408361114861362010-07-31T22:44:07.974-04:002010-07-31T22:44:07.974-04:00There's a saying that shows up regularly in mi...There's a saying that shows up regularly in military circles, especially USMC: "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet."<br /><br />Many people do not want to think this way, but I believe that having a mental plan for how you will be the one to survive if an encounter goes as far wrong as possible changes the vibe you give off (including your smile). Obviously I've never tried it as a woman on a creepy guy, but I have used it as a man on aggressive guys and it seems to work nicely there, and I have not found it to make normal people uncomfortable.<br /><br />Of course it seems paranoid, but we're already at the point of refusing to smile at people because they might be dangerous. Having a plan for what to do if they turn out to be dangerous is just prudent, given the already granted premise that they might be.<br /><br />To use <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper" rel="nofollow">Jeff Cooper's color codes</a>, be in Condition Yellow, and if someone says "Give me a smile baby" shift to Condition Orange.Mousie00noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-6498482909363872442010-07-31T21:25:13.002-04:002010-07-31T21:25:13.002-04:00Once I have enough information to do so, sure.Once I have enough information to do so, sure.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.com