tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post4060119429892944504..comments2024-03-22T05:55:48.117-04:00Comments on The Pervocracy: Scott Adams Quick-Fisk.Cliff Pervocracyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-62560524635232149682011-04-17T22:37:07.769-04:002011-04-17T22:37:07.769-04:00Though I'm not going to take back my defense o...Though I'm not going to take back my defense of Adams' previous comments on the last post about him, I do take back my assertion that I don't think less of him.<br /><br />Though his core observation (that gender isn't the only reason people are discriminated against) is not wrong, the assertion that means it doesn't matter is really just stupid. Obviously, if everybody thought the way he did about any kind of discrimination, nobody could ever pin down why they were being discriminated against and so nobody would ever do anything about it. <br /><br />Not every situation is as clear cut as we'd like it to be, but that doesn't mean it's better to be paralyzed with indecisiveness than to just risk being wrong sometimes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-81122249448826293142011-04-01T19:09:30.008-04:002011-04-01T19:09:30.008-04:00@Bob Actually, Adams went over the key to success ...@Bob Actually, Adams went over the key to success in The Dilbert Future! Due to a misunderstanding of what "observer" means in the context of quantum mechanics, Adams believes that writing your goal one hundred times a day will influence the universe to become what you will it to, which is why he is now a syndicated cartoonist. (The dude has been a fountain of this stuff for a decade.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-54172178861502735972011-04-01T14:10:08.862-04:002011-04-01T14:10:08.862-04:00I am fortunate that I haven't suffered enough ...I am fortunate that I haven't suffered enough brutal indignations as a result of being female in a sexist world that I'd vote to become someone else - but that's kind of like saying the Japanese earthquake victims haven't *really* suffered if they haven't all immediately clamored to move to America. Hunkering down and making the best of the hand you were dealt is a pretty widespread human trait.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-2821105432254955292011-04-01T13:45:53.130-04:002011-04-01T13:45:53.130-04:00If you had the genie, would you be able to that on...If you had the genie, would you be able to that only once, or three times (as in a traditional gene-wish arrangement, but the only wish you get is gender-flipping)? Cuz I don't know if I'd go all-or-nothing (I tend to be a cautious cat), but the option to flip, flip back and then have the option flip over once more on the gender spectrum sounds like a pretty good deal.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16112168320194235072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-61967572888318578022011-04-01T12:02:17.022-04:002011-04-01T12:02:17.022-04:00I seem to recall a comment on a previous post here...I seem to recall a comment on a previous post here that there was some talk show where the guy asked the studio audience how many of them would switch genders (instantly and painlessly) <i>for a million dollars</i> - and almost nobody raised their hand. <br /><br />So obviously the urge to stay the same is about gender identity, not wanting different advantages, since a million dollars would be a pretty fucking huge advantage in life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-54219540317888877282011-04-01T10:49:31.461-04:002011-04-01T10:49:31.461-04:00Hang on. Isn't the fact that most cis women w...Hang on. Isn't the fact that most cis women wouldn't change their sex just to obtain male privilege proof that most cis women have a strong subconscious sex that corresponds to the subconscious sex of trans women? Yes, some people don't have it, but seriously, wouldn't we have seen a hell of a lot more transitions to male if it were about privilege? And probably zero transitions to female?<br /><br />Scott Adams, stop talking out your ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-90248543937996078312011-04-01T09:07:22.172-04:002011-04-01T09:07:22.172-04:00In regard to the switching gender thing: like Emi...In regard to the switching gender thing: like Emily H. has already pointed out, a lot of people identify with their gender and don't want to change regardless of the circumstances. But, I would acknowledge that the disadvantages faced by women (or people who aren't white or heterosexual) definitely don't give me much incentive to want to be a woman (or black or Asian or gay or whatever).<br /><br />What that doesn't mean (contrary to what Scott Adams seems to suggest) is that I want to uphold the status quo. I want everyone to have the advantages I totally acknowledge that I have as a white male (although, once everyone had them, I guess they would cease to meet the definition of advantages--but that's none of my concern).Brock F'in Samsonhttp://brock-fn-samson.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-40695257708452629842011-04-01T01:42:10.003-04:002011-04-01T01:42:10.003-04:00"If a genie gave you the chance to magically ..."If a genie gave you the chance to magically switch your gender, and become a member of the other sex, would you do it?" Well, most people strongly identify with their gender. They wouldn't want to change it even if the unfair advantages given to the other gender were glaring and outrageous. (People who want to change their gender are transgender... they're a small minority that Scott Adams probably considers pretty weird.)<br /><br />Similarly, most black people probably wouldn't want to become white... they just want the discrimination to end. And victims of religious persecution don't want to change, they just want to practice their religion in peace. And most gay people don't want to become straight, they just want the same rights straight people have. For fuck's sake it's not that complicated. The whole point of women's rights is that we get to REMAIN WOMEN, yet receive THE SAME RIGHTS MEN DO.Emily H.http://ihatenyt.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-71325209959445849612011-04-01T01:35:35.332-04:002011-04-01T01:35:35.332-04:00Bob - No, being a white dude isn't a ticket to...Bob - No, being a white dude isn't a ticket to fame and fortune (although it does help the odds), but someone who happens to be rich and famous is just in a really bad position to be pulling the "I'm a victim of prejudice too, but do you see me complaining?" card.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-37049058687106662382011-04-01T00:59:41.189-04:002011-04-01T00:59:41.189-04:00I like the "Apologise if this offends".....I like the "Apologise if this offends".. by like I mean that anyone ending a post that way butchered and sent in parts to all seven continents as a warning that it's not okay.<br /><br />It's not okay. It's on the same level as "no offence, but.." and "not to be judgemental".<br /><br />If you don't mean to be offensive, don't be. Refrain from offending people instead of using a stupid disclaimer that basically means "I'm about to be incredible offensive, but I can't be bothered to not be so, but because of my disclaimer you don't get to call me out on it". <br /><br />If you mean to be offensive, be offensive and own up to it.Ulcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-38149401849361883832011-04-01T00:22:01.850-04:002011-04-01T00:22:01.850-04:00I made myself go back and read the original articl...I made myself go back and read the original article, expecting to be pissed off more, but now I'm just confused. Fat women don't deserve promotions? Accepting an offer to change into to a body that gives you more advantages means you don't deserve any? <br /><br />This hasn't been any kind of constructive comment. Just WTF? <br /><br />When can we start ignoring him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-41739753741867337222011-04-01T00:03:49.663-04:002011-04-01T00:03:49.663-04:00"while somehow missing the part where he'..."while somehow missing the part where he's rich and famous."<br /><br />That makes it sound as if he's always been so. He hasn't. He made it through a combination of some small talent (not for drawing, but for illustrating absurdity in the workplace), hard work, and luck. There's no White Guy Wealth Vault that you're given a secret key to at a certain point in your life. If there is, I somehow missed out on receiving my secret key.<br /><br />Having said that, Adams is not the first nouveau riche individual to come to the mistaken conclusion that wealth + fame = wisdom.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402651457453813639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-62195061693475985272011-03-31T20:39:05.484-04:002011-03-31T20:39:05.484-04:00I'd do it in a hearbeat. But I'm trans. ...I'd do it in a hearbeat. But I'm trans. Which has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SCOTT.<br /><br />Jeezum. Just another example of the Orson Scott Card rule: sometimes artists can create really nifty stuff and still be idiots or batshit crazy.Gracielanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-67310741532527312302011-03-31T20:25:50.021-04:002011-03-31T20:25:50.021-04:00Lisette - I think he's kind of implying that d...Lisette - I think he's kind of implying that discrimination is "just life, suck it up," which is one of those phrases that's rivaled only by "why are you worrying about this instead of the economy/children starving in Africa/<i>my</i> problems" in its multipurpose utility in shutting down discussions.<br /><br />Cheshire - I think it makes you the <i>only</i> kind of person who's allowed to believe in feminism.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-77240983186869094782011-03-31T20:02:08.226-04:002011-03-31T20:02:08.226-04:00@Juliet yep, I would love to look male, a cis like...@Juliet yep, I would love to look male, a cis like Dick and no need for to have injections for the rest of my life, yes please. Does that mean I am allowed to believe in feminismcheshirehttp://cheshire.dreamwidth.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-11959071913912403322011-03-31T19:36:30.673-04:002011-03-31T19:36:30.673-04:00"If a genie gave you the chance to magically ..."If a genie gave you the chance to magically switch your gender, and become a member of the other sex, would you do it?"<br /><br />#revengeofthecis<br /><br />Amiright?Opheliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01274098250489003487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-38700600345395106302011-03-31T19:30:08.390-04:002011-03-31T19:30:08.390-04:00Wait, I'm confused. So because I'm secure ...Wait, I'm confused. So because I'm secure in my gender identity, women aren't discriminated against? I didn't realize the two were related.<br /><br />And yeah, I love how he basically says it's ok if the discrimination was based on race or attractiveness.Lisettenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-79742820838626937022011-03-31T19:15:35.275-04:002011-03-31T19:15:35.275-04:00That last point bugs the fuck out of me. Like, abo...That last point <i>bugs the fuck out of me.</i> Like, above and beyond how much Scott Adams is generally annoying me right now.<br /><br />I don't particularly want to be a guy. I just want to <i>be treated like a person,</i> and I don't see what having a vagina has to do with that.<br /><br />Also, what fucking 'advantages' do I have now? Men holding doors open and pulling out chairs for me? OMG, THAT IS TOTALLY BETTER THAN EQUAL PAY (also, they don't).aebhelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-89290662029305429012011-03-31T19:11:34.022-04:002011-03-31T19:11:34.022-04:00It really sucks that Scott Adams has turned out to...It really sucks that Scott Adams has turned out to be such an idiot.LiMiVuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705514619674055207noreply@blogger.com