tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post4094921581313320727..comments2024-03-22T05:55:48.117-04:00Comments on The Pervocracy: Women should.Cliff Pervocracyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-45727097455750667862010-02-23T09:41:54.228-05:002010-02-23T09:41:54.228-05:00I think something like this applies also to guys w...I think something like this applies also to guys who demand that a woman have an orgasm every time. Yeah, it's different from not caring if she does, and he certainly should make the effort if she wants him to, but as with anything else in sex (and any other interaction, really), the key words are "if she wants him to"; he shouldn't make it yet another bit of sex that's all about him.<br /><br />And that's how cunnilingus can be anti-feminist.<br /><br /><i>Relatedly, it may take a little more self-awareness and courage to state a preference that's different from that mainstream cultural message. For example, and more dramatically, "Fat women are hot."</i><br /><br />It's just as reductionist, though. The point is that women are allowed to look like they look. There's nothing wrong with saying "I find fat women hot" (though I suspect some people are trying to be more-progressive-than-thou, as "look how I don't use the beauty standard to oppress my women!") but "fat women <b>are</b> hot" presents it as a demand and an instruction just as much as the opposite does.Hershele Ostropolerhttp://deweydecimate.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-86398552339892811602010-02-22T20:19:00.033-05:002010-02-22T20:19:00.033-05:00One of the full-throatedly "feminist" gu...One of the full-throatedly "feminist" guys I knew was susceptible to this. He didn't understand why I would choose to wear high heels, (according to him, they weren't even sexy, which he decided was relevant information even though I never asked his opinion: I didn't think his shirt was sexy, but unlike him, I refrained from making this kind of observation apropos of nothing), so he would say these totally condescending things like, "You don't need to wear those." Like, really? A member of the patriarchy is deigning to grant me a reprieve from patriarchal expectations? Like I needed his permission to cast of the yoke of male oppression, or something. The fact that he felt that he was in a position to give me permission to wear the clothing he preferred was the only kind of oppression going on.Reemanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-64224052304005054712010-02-22T15:50:01.051-05:002010-02-22T15:50:01.051-05:00There's one important difference I see between...There's one important difference I see between "I like women in high heels" and "I like women in jeans". Namely, that we're saturated with the message that women look hot in high heels, and sometimes it's nice to be reminded (if you're that woman in jeans) that some people have other preferences. <br> <br> Relatedly, it may take a little more self-awareness and courage to state a preference that's different from that mainstream cultural message. For example, and more dramatically, "Fat women are hot." <br> <br> Doesn't make you a big favor to womankind for having a culturally unpopular preference, sure, but it's worth something.Beastnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-42038417330534680752010-02-21T22:55:22.453-05:002010-02-21T22:55:22.453-05:00Women should be naked. And so should men. Not all ...Women should be naked. And so should men. Not all the time, but often while in public. This is not because it necessarily makes them more attractive but because wearing clothing all the time is physically bad for you and psychologically bad for those who see you. There, I said it. OMG I is a total jerrrk LOL. :-pNot Menoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-91337622564158691432010-02-21T16:38:10.371-05:002010-02-21T16:38:10.371-05:00Paradox - Yeah. Sometimes it's hard to convey...Paradox - Yeah. Sometimes it's hard to convey that I'm really not trying to shame men for liking women, I love it when men like women and many different types of women--I only want to shame the men who like women <i>and are douches about it.</i> It's not really that fine a distinction.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-11746231160366330302010-02-21T16:31:23.838-05:002010-02-21T16:31:23.838-05:00Excellent point, Holly!
I like that you can take ...Excellent point, Holly!<br /><br />I like that you can take this in reverse, too. There's nothing wrong with liking high heels and makeup on women (or being one and liking to wear high heels and makeup) so long's you don't say women <i>should</i> wear them.Alyssahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778985616893202661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-57157825584660163002010-02-21T16:26:24.376-05:002010-02-21T16:26:24.376-05:00RobertM - And a lot of men aren't. But the on...RobertM - And a lot of men aren't. But the ones who are, are so damn visible and so rarely questioned.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-56064697936275806812010-02-21T15:01:37.001-05:002010-02-21T15:01:37.001-05:00I'm glad I'm not one of 'those men....I'm glad I'm not one of 'those men.'Robert McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849168773343652368noreply@blogger.com