tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post5118448535174982408..comments2024-03-22T05:55:48.117-04:00Comments on The Pervocracy: The Misandry Bubble - Part 5!Cliff Pervocracyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-19043253747632114922010-05-22T22:40:11.381-04:002010-05-22T22:40:11.381-04:00This Misandary Bubble is really one giant puss-fil...This Misandary Bubble is really one giant puss-filled festering blister, isn't it? And the trolls here are like high school boys who draw penises on their desks to make the teacher mad! (I, too, enjoy similes and metaphors.) Bubble Boys: maybe you could give up on women and try to enjoy something else? Like cars or cookies or jigsaw puzzles?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-78578260607987531802010-05-22T17:19:30.370-04:002010-05-22T17:19:30.370-04:00"The anons in this really need to start assig..."The anons in this really need to start assigning themselves names so I can tell who's yelling what. "<br /><br />I bin sayin'.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-17640544526248128602010-05-22T17:19:01.626-04:002010-05-22T17:19:01.626-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-48881918883957451882010-05-22T13:37:00.239-04:002010-05-22T13:37:00.239-04:00I don't think anybody was deliberately objecti...I don't think anybody was deliberately objectifying women (who isn't an anonymous troll). However, <i>in this context</i>; referring to an abstract, fungible woman; in a society which often objectifies women in their relationships with men; I maintain that the phrase "a woman worth having" is objectifying. <br /><br />"I have a boss/parent/spouse/whatever" refers to the relationship that one has with another person - boss, parent, spouse, etc. You don't "have" the person, you have the relationship. "I have a woman" objectifies the person.Marissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00598310548059926496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-48854611465225047372010-05-22T11:36:54.077-04:002010-05-22T11:36:54.077-04:00Can people stop using the phrase "any woman w...<i>Can people stop using the phrase "any woman worth having"? You don't "have" a woman. You spend time with her, you do stuff with her. Such language implies that women are commodities, and supports thinking about women as trophies and "sportscars that you can stick your dick into."</i> <br /><br />"Having" a person is a standard form in English that doesn't connote possession or objectification. You can have friends, lovers, acquaintances, allies, enemies, colleagues, co-workers, bosses, elected representatives, passengers, patients, and parents without any of those people being reduced to commodities. The verb "to have" <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/have#Verb" rel="nofollow">can either indicate ownership or relationship</a>. <br /><br />A "friend worth having" hasn't been turned into the equivalent of a trophy, either. <br /><br />If you think specific people are objectifying women in this conversation, that's another matter (I haven't read all the comments; Trolley McButtslutpants makes my brain turn off). But that would be a problem with the attitude of the person in question, not with the phrase.elmo iscariothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14710846725911318970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-82192396741654748582010-05-22T02:52:39.867-04:002010-05-22T02:52:39.867-04:00@ Anonymous 2:14 AM
FWIW I also refer to myself a...@ Anonymous 2:14 AM<br /><br /><i>FWIW I also refer to myself as "having" my bf. We have each other. I mean it affectionate-like, not as an ownership thing (or, okay, maybe as mutual ownership with nobody being the boss of anyone) but I can't expect others to know this. </i><br /><br />The context of the sentence itself also matters. I think there's a difference between, "we'll always have each other," and "a woman worth having." The latter is much more objectifying.Marissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00598310548059926496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-21029881430979010422010-05-22T02:14:06.703-04:002010-05-22T02:14:06.703-04:00Can people stop using the phrase "any woman w...<i>Can people stop using the phrase "any woman worth having"? You don't "have" a woman.</i><br /><br />Sorry, I think I was the first one to use that phrase in this thread. I just meant "have" vs. "fuck"...I should've said "worth being in a relationship with".<br /><br />FWIW I also refer to myself as "having" my bf. We have each other. I mean it affectionate-like, not as an ownership thing (or, okay, maybe as <i>mutual</i> ownership with nobody being the boss of anyone) but I can't expect others to know this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-91027019235188544942010-05-22T01:06:37.691-04:002010-05-22T01:06:37.691-04:00Holly: I posted the comment before I surfed over t...Holly: I posted the comment before I surfed over to the other thread. I agree it was getting to the "nowhere productive" place, but it's still important to me to draw distinctions between him and...<br /><br />....This dude. Who is still making me split my fucking sides with the whole "accuse women of being childish and reactionary while calling people butt slut". And I'm totally in the "is a parody troll" camp.LabRathttp://www.atomicnerds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-517205895907220992010-05-21T22:47:20.376-04:002010-05-21T22:47:20.376-04:00Can people stop using the phrase "any woman w...Can people stop using the phrase "any woman worth having"? You don't "have" a woman. You spend time with her, you do stuff with her. Such language implies that women are commodities, and supports thinking about women as trophies and "sportscars that you can stick your dick into."Marissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00598310548059926496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-16106896882802137532010-05-21T22:15:09.269-04:002010-05-21T22:15:09.269-04:00there is no reason to let a 'feminist' get...<i>there is no reason to let a 'feminist' get away with anything you would not let a man get away with.</i><br />I manage not to let a feminist get away with anything I would not let a man get away with, whatever that means, <b>without</b> being a raging missajunist.<br /><br />Now, is "being nice to women" paying for dinner, buying them presents, etc., or is it behaving in a way that maks the woman in question happy?<br /><br />* * *<br /><br /><i>I'm starting to think that the self-labeled "Beta Males" are mostly guys with deeply flawed personalities who scare away normal people.</i><br />"Starting to"? Where've you been?<br /><br /><i>This "Game" crap won't work on any woman truly worth having. <br /><br />Wrong. You don't understand how women think.<br /><br />Game works better, the better looking the woman is.</i><br /><br />That's not really the same thing, unless you think "truly worth having"=="good-looking."<br /><br />Oh, wait. Oh. Oh, I see. Ok, yeah, you, uh, you have fun with that.<br /><br /><i> Women are no more capable of understanding the adult world, than children are. </i><br />I suppose once it's been long enough you no longer even <b>want</b> to get laid.<br /><br /><i>It would be so sad to be so fixed on sex that it blocked having real relationships with actual, individual women. And you don't even get much sex that way, either; at least compared to a married man.</i><br />According to Bubble Boy, though, married women don't sleep with their husbands.Hershele Ostropolerhttp://deweydecimate.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-18430222783601615442010-05-21T21:11:35.397-04:002010-05-21T21:11:35.397-04:00lastnightsclothes, I always think of Macho Man whe...lastnightsclothes, I always think of Macho Man when I eat Slim Jims.<br /><br />Holly, HIABS may not be one of your friends, but he's definitely someone who's just giving you a hard time rather than trying to persuade anyone. If you respond in the spirit it's offered, you may get tired of typing "POOPHEAD".Mousie00noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-48701940227932756542010-05-21T21:02:03.061-04:002010-05-21T21:02:03.061-04:00Holly, I understood you meant the one topic, and i...Holly, I understood you meant the one topic, and it was excellent advice. LabRat, I think I get you now, thanks.Mousie00noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-27702719914013040452010-05-21T20:54:07.091-04:002010-05-21T20:54:07.091-04:00I really, seriously can't tell whether you'...I really, seriously can't tell whether you're just one of my friends giving me a hard time. I even have some suspects.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-32400776709537568172010-05-21T20:53:02.073-04:002010-05-21T20:53:02.073-04:00Wait, Butt-slut claimed that Game does not work.
...Wait, Butt-slut claimed that Game does not work.<br /><br />Riiiiight. That is what they all say. <br /><br /><a href="http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/chicks-dig-jerks-a-series-without-end/" rel="nofollow">Roissy explains why chicks dig jerks.</a> Butt-slut could educate herself here. <br /><br />Men are the only humans who ever left the animal kingdom, it turns out.Hole-y is a ButtSlutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-36030858071397425542010-05-21T20:35:48.649-04:002010-05-21T20:35:48.649-04:00I think instead of Hulk Hogan, they should get Mac...I think instead of Hulk Hogan, they should get Macho Man Randy Savage to be the spokesman for this new movement. It's obvious he's more manly than Hulk, because he recorded a song to that effect ("Be a Man, Hulk"), plus he has the word "macho" in his name. He could do another rap album to raise public awareness of the misandry epidemic. It'd be awesome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-26080856590565250182010-05-21T20:15:19.408-04:002010-05-21T20:15:19.408-04:00LabRat - I suggested Mousie00 stop posting on the ...LabRat - I suggested Mousie00 stop posting on the previous thread because he just kept digging deeper and painting himself into a corner and backpedaling harder and other strained metaphors. I didn't tell him to stop posting everywhere though, but that particular conversation was getting unproductive and pissing everyone off.Cliff Pervocracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02080142422250604406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-84186044414747646692010-05-21T20:04:50.612-04:002010-05-21T20:04:50.612-04:00Nope. I'd like you to get exactly what I'...Nope. I'd like you to get exactly what I'm trying to get across, not shut up. :)LabRathttp://www.atomicnerds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-69010587331205130912010-05-21T19:27:33.621-04:002010-05-21T19:27:33.621-04:00LabRat - Thanks, I really appreciate that, especia...LabRat - Thanks, I really appreciate that, especially since I think you'd really like me to shut up. As Holly suggested, shutting up now.Mousie00noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-60820273351387415172010-05-21T14:39:39.731-04:002010-05-21T14:39:39.731-04:00Mousie's been arguing in good faith. There...Mousie's been arguing in good faith. There's a fine line between trolling and doing that with a questionable argument which Bubble Dude would like to manipulate, but so far as I can tell Mousie's still on the right side of it.LabRathttp://www.atomicnerds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-64565095746998195382010-05-21T13:18:11.375-04:002010-05-21T13:18:11.375-04:00Mousie00: Sorry for my part, standing on a tuft of...Mousie00: <i>Sorry for my part, standing on a tuft of grass in the stye shouting "well this tuft is clean!"</i><br /><br />No, what you're doing is lying in the mud oinking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-90525382615367412442010-05-21T13:00:30.149-04:002010-05-21T13:00:30.149-04:00I know it's a pretty self-selecting bunch read...I know it's a pretty self-selecting bunch reading this post, but it's still heartening to see the ratio of clever folk to trolls. I mean, it's much better than I would've expected. But then, I live in a big city with a famously small-town mentality, so perhaps I'm jaded.Leigh Olivianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-13970846721294339322010-05-21T11:26:38.292-04:002010-05-21T11:26:38.292-04:00Women are no more capable of understanding the adu...<i>Women are no more capable of understanding the adult world, than children are.<br /><br />Get a clue, dumbshit.</i><br /><br />I wonder why this person would need an elaborate system of rules and trickery in order to convince women to be with him?<br /><br />It is a mystery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-86434769281806712632010-05-21T10:36:57.335-04:002010-05-21T10:36:57.335-04:00I don't want to be enshrined on an exalted ped...<i>I don't want to be enshrined on an exalted pedestal!</i> <br /><br />Yeah, but c'mon. With the right historical roleplay accoutrements, that could be _hot_. ;) <br /><br />(Sorry, that's all I got. Don't have your patience for this "misandry bubble" crap, and the troll in your comments is boring me to tears.)elmo iscariothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14710846725911318970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-30575138330501512292010-05-21T09:20:47.586-04:002010-05-21T09:20:47.586-04:00Anonymous at 12:47: "Game works better, the b...Anonymous at 12:47: "Game works better, the better looking the woman is."<br /><br />Ah. So when women we can't see say that it doesn't work, you can just dismiss them as probably ugly.<br /><br />I find these PUA guys to be so alien. I worked with two guys with the same name, which we'll call Keith. A nice guy and a PUA type; all of the rest of us men in the office called them Good Keith and Bad Keith, respectively. Good Keith usually had a long-term relationship going on. He had some troubles, but they were normal ones. Bad Keith never had a decent relationship. He had several short ones, all with women who were apparently horrible to him (at least to listen to him tell it.) I suspect the women he managed to get actually were pretty bad. It's not like he was picking them for personality. Getting sex was always a goal for Bad Keith, and always a huge struggle, which we heard way more about than we wanted. He was talking about buying a RealDoll when I left.<br /><br />It would be so sad to be so fixed on sex that it blocked having real relationships with actual, individual women. And you don't even get much sex that way, either; at least compared to a married man. I can see where the frustration comes from, and it's obvious how it leads to resentment and anger.Mousie00noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2770580070906411828.post-60812532345752243602010-05-21T06:45:45.361-04:002010-05-21T06:45:45.361-04:00*snicker* Oh, I wish I thought of that one.*snicker* Oh, I wish I thought of that one.Not Menoreply@blogger.com