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Monday, February 16, 2009
The only thing you really need to know about PUA.
This man claims to be an expert on attracting women. He has carefully dressed and accessorized himself in the way he feels to be most conducive to picking them up.
Eurosabra - Um, I've been to clubs on Sunset. I'll grant you that the people there aren't entirely human, but I'm damn sure there weren't any mad-hatter-vampire-magician-binoculars-critters there. If anything, the social pressure in that environment is to look hypernormal, as fashionable and TV-ready as possible.
Vertel - The funny thing is, I think he might actually be an okay-looking guy underneath. He's got high cheekbones, square jawline, looks to be in decent shape. I think in a plain white shirt and jeans he'd be above average (until he opened his mouth, obviously). But all that stuff on him is just... yeah.
It looks like he's trying to hit EVERY niche all at once. The stretched lobes with dumbass spirals, the kiss tattoo(!?!), the velvet jacket for the punk/steampunk crowd, the superman pendant for the nerds... I'm with you Holly, I think he looks like a train wreck. bleck.
I've met him, seen him in action, and basically he CAN do what he says he can, but he has a tendency to pick emotionally volatile women for long-term relationships, which often matches him up with the unstable. (Katya, one former girlfriend, is serving time for burglary in Louisiana because she just couldn't let a totally-unrelated-to-Mystery dispute go.)
The "that can't work" echo here reminds me of "Nice Guys Finish Last". Aren't women supposed to be individual distinct creatures of such mind boggling diversity in their personal tastes that an outré Rock Star act will appeal to quite a few? And he IS charming in person, with a certain degree of pure playfulness that he can't really teach to others.
But yes, the outfit is a "I'll see your fashion subculture and raise you" taken to the extreme.
This guy calls himself "Mystery"? Now I *really* want to see him prison raped.
Euro, you're argument makes no sense. Of course some women wants to sleep with this douchebag -- I doubt anyone's surprised to hear that she's probably insane. Someone wants to sleep with Louie Anderson. Why would you believe that mimicking either would make you happy?
It seems to me you're just dog-piling on with distasteful ad homs.
Erik can be very charming, and I'm SURE tons of women respond to his games, jokes, and stories because that sort of thing appeals to their world-view. He's simply (among other things) taken party magic and paper roses to another level.
Bruno,
If you find the nom de plume and dress sense of a D-list celebrity so horrible as to be punishable by rape, I feel afraid for any minor celebrities who may chance across you. Please be careful not to harm Chris Baio or the rest of his rock band.
Is the objection that he (like other PUAs) is getting something he "doesn't deserve" by being "unnatural"? Or that no woman should want a man like that? And may I tell you how disconcerting I find that proposition from the naturally naturalness of natural rapport crowd? Some women are party girls who naturally want a minor celeb. Mainly, his disciples are attractive to a sub-genre of playful goth girl, from what I've seen.
Euro - No one's doubting Mystery gets laid. (Albeit by crazy women, and because he's on TV.) What we're seriously doubting is that anything good would come from imitating him.
Actually I would, if he burnt the silly hat, but then I like metrosexual androgynous rock-star types and any boy who looks like he might be bisexual. (But then I'm sure he wouldn't like me, as the PUA lines would annoy me & I tend to be the predator type myself, and I'm too short & plain to be an LA model!)
He's quite pretty, features-wise, and at least he's trying to be something other than normal - I don't go much for the plain white shirt & jeans look, me.
However he isn't Dave Navarro or Perry Farrell or even a minor LA session musician, even though he's trying to look like one. So when you get to the "Anyway, so what instrument do you play?" I'm afraid he'd have a big old strike-out on that one.
Also, the name "Mystery" is pretty cheesy, not very rock. He's just kinda Marilyn Manson for cruise-ship old ladies, or something.
There's only one reason a boy needs to open his mouth ..... ;)
Something seriously wrong is going on there.
ReplyDeleteNiche market, Holly. Women in clubs on Sunset Boulevard in LA. He wouldn't do you either, so everybody's happy.
ReplyDeleteI can't decide if the strange androgyny is because he's shaved carefully, or if because his balls haven't dropped yet.
ReplyDeleteWe all know this is just a front. You're a a limp, drooling, hormonal mush just looking at his zany accessorizing.
ReplyDeleteEurosabra - Um, I've been to clubs on Sunset. I'll grant you that the people there aren't entirely human, but I'm damn sure there weren't any mad-hatter-vampire-magician-binoculars-critters there. If anything, the social pressure in that environment is to look hypernormal, as fashionable and TV-ready as possible.
ReplyDeleteVertel - The funny thing is, I think he might actually be an okay-looking guy underneath. He's got high cheekbones, square jawline, looks to be in decent shape. I think in a plain white shirt and jeans he'd be above average (until he opened his mouth, obviously). But all that stuff on him is just... yeah.
It looks like he's trying to hit EVERY niche all at once. The stretched lobes with dumbass spirals, the kiss tattoo(!?!), the velvet jacket for the punk/steampunk crowd, the superman pendant for the nerds... I'm with you Holly, I think he looks like a train wreck. bleck.
ReplyDeleteLooks like he's going for the "Dennis Rodman" look.
ReplyDeleteWhich seems to play well with both sexes, it appears...
Holly - I love that phrase. I've mentioned I love that phrase, right?
ReplyDeleteEurosabra - I'm pretty sure a beggar like that can't be a chooser. And frankly, even if you're choosy, Holly's a catch.
I've met him, seen him in action, and basically he CAN do what he says he can, but he has a tendency to pick emotionally volatile women for long-term relationships, which often matches him up with the unstable. (Katya, one former girlfriend, is serving time for burglary in Louisiana because she just couldn't let a totally-unrelated-to-Mystery dispute go.)
ReplyDeleteThe "that can't work" echo here reminds me of "Nice Guys Finish Last". Aren't women supposed to be individual distinct creatures of such mind boggling diversity in their personal tastes that an outré Rock Star act will appeal to quite a few? And he IS charming in person, with a certain degree of pure playfulness that he can't really teach to others.
But yes, the outfit is a "I'll see your fashion subculture and raise you" taken to the extreme.
This guy calls himself "Mystery"? Now I *really* want to see him prison raped.
ReplyDeleteEuro, you're argument makes no sense. Of course some women wants to sleep with this douchebag -- I doubt anyone's surprised to hear that she's probably insane. Someone wants to sleep with Louie Anderson. Why would you believe that mimicking either would make you happy?
It seems to me you're just dog-piling on with distasteful ad homs.
ReplyDeleteErik can be very charming, and I'm SURE tons of women respond to his games, jokes, and stories because that sort of thing appeals to their world-view. He's simply (among other things) taken party magic and paper roses to another level.
Bruno,
If you find the nom de plume and dress sense of a D-list celebrity so horrible as to be punishable by rape, I feel afraid for any minor celebrities who may chance across you. Please be careful not to harm Chris Baio or the rest of his rock band.
Is the objection that he (like other PUAs) is getting something he "doesn't deserve" by being "unnatural"? Or that no woman should want a man like that? And may I tell you how disconcerting I find that proposition from the naturally naturalness of natural rapport crowd? Some women are party girls who naturally want a minor celeb. Mainly, his disciples are attractive to a sub-genre of playful goth girl, from what I've seen.
Euro -- Did you even read my comment?
ReplyDeleteEuro - No one's doubting Mystery gets laid. (Albeit by crazy women, and because he's on TV.) What we're seriously doubting is that anything good would come from imitating him.
ReplyDeleteThat's Mystery? Whooo boy. It's all too much. Much too much. The makeup, the stupid hat, the whole bit.
ReplyDeleteI don't really like mystery method myself. Indirect openers suck. I like direct game.
ReplyDeleteActually I would, if he burnt the silly hat, but then I like metrosexual androgynous rock-star types and any boy who looks like he might be bisexual. (But then I'm sure he wouldn't like me, as the PUA lines would annoy me & I tend to be the predator type myself, and I'm too short & plain to be an LA model!)
ReplyDeleteHe's quite pretty, features-wise, and at least he's trying to be something other than normal - I don't go much for the plain white shirt & jeans look, me.
However he isn't Dave Navarro or Perry Farrell or even a minor LA session musician, even though he's trying to look like one. So when you get to the "Anyway, so what instrument do you play?" I'm afraid he'd have a big old strike-out on that one.
Also, the name "Mystery" is pretty cheesy, not very rock. He's just kinda Marilyn Manson for cruise-ship old ladies, or something.
There's only one reason a boy needs to open his mouth ..... ;)